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    #91
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    dude.....Ward is from Oakland....not Las Vegas

    Kovalev has fought in the US consistently for years....has been on HBO for years...was the in-house fighter

    Ward won bro....many pro fighters, trainers, officials had it 1-2 points for ward....I could see a draw or wouldn't have cried foul if kov won...the fight had like 4 swing rounds.

    when two elite fighters square off, its rare you see a dominant performance
    ...close fights happen...wish some people would stop acting like this fight was Augustus vs Burton or Whitaker vs chavez.....those were ROBBERIES.
    Bro, your post is full of pretexts. Ward is from U.S.A and is obvious he is the local man. No way a guy from Russia will be the winner in a close fight vs a super star from U.S.A fighting in Las Vegas.

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    Ward "won" only because he was the local man, his fight was mediocre and horrible, he was clinching in a crazy mode.

    He is a good fighter but not that good of people from U.S.A thinks he is. And no way he is the #1. He needs beat clearly Kova in the rematch but he is scared to fight again.

    He is very limited in a lot of aspects.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
      Bro, your post is full of pretexts. Ward is from U.S.A and is obvious he is the local man. No way a guy from Russia will be the winner in a close fight vs a super star from U.S.A fighting in Las Vegas.

      Then...










      Ward "won" only because he was the local man, his fight was mediocre and horrible, he was clinching in a crazy mode.

      He is a good fighter but not that good of people from U.S.A thinks he is. And no way he is the #1. He needs beat clearly Kova in the rematch but he is scared to fight again.

      He is very limited in a lot of aspects.
      blah blah blah...post your scorecard and the rounds kov won....he lost bro get over it.....ward is not beloved or some icon....kov was the hbo fighter and being branded as the killer.....ward upset the applecart

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        #93
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
        doesnt make him p4p no 1.... everybody can see Lomachenko has a million more talent, if you understnad anything about pugilism
        loma hasn't been in with p4p type comp

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          #94
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
          No that's an opinion. You quoted me ******, following you around?
          It is the opinion of most observes too.

          Do you want the rematch btw?

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            #95
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            loma hasn't been in with p4p type comp
            no, but that's just your observation of defining p4p. There is no 'official' representation it is a subjective question. His obviously the most talented fighter along with Rigo, resume's regardless. Just look at the Walters fight, a guy who dismantled Donaire. He made it look so easy it was ridiculous almost and he didn't even step down the pedal fully. Tellling

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              #96
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
              no, but that's just your observation of defining p4p. There is no 'official' representation it is a subjective question. His obviously the most talented fighter along with Rigo, resume's regardless. Just look at the Walters fight, a guy who dismantled Donaire. He made it look so easy it was ridiculous almost and he didn't even step down the pedal fully. Tellling
              talent wise he is one of the best......it has to be proven in the ring.....eye test only goes so far but he is definitely on the way.


              same thing with GGG, to a much greater degree....the talent is there but its hard to know how good they are if they are not fighting elite competition

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                #97
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                talent wise he is one of the best......it has to be proven in the ring.....eye test only goes so far but he is definitely on the way.


                same thing with GGG, to a much greater degree....the talent is there but its hard to know how good they are if they are not fighting elite competition
                Loma is pretty young still, GGG not so much but I believe 2017-18 will define some legacy for Gennady.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                  Loma is pretty young still, GGG not so much but I believe 2017-18 will define some legacy for Gennady.
                  my coach loves loma, he grew on me....kids the goods...his resume justs needs to catch up to his talent and know how....he could easily be # 1p4p if he beats the fight guys....unify 130...get a belt at 135..cant deny him then

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                    #99
                    I have to go Ward. Granted that fight could've gone either way but he got the W against a absolute wrecking machine with skills

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