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    #91
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    LOL at this "not my fault" bs. Of course its his fault too.

    Hell if Duva just let Kovalev be Kovalev he's be the biggest bad guy in boxing right now & people would be lining up to hopefully see him lose in person & on PPV. That would also likely make Ward a good guy surprisingly despite his lack of likability or just social savvy or giving a f#ck about even being socially savvy + success at helming up himself with things he does & says.
    How is Duva not letting Kovalev be Kovalev? Isn't he pretty much himself all the time?

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      #92
      meanwhile a guy accused of being "boring" for half his career happens to be the richest boxer to ever do it.. it's not about boring or exciting, it's about charisma..having a personality that draws fans to you, whether to admire or critique you..to cheer you on or laugh at your pain... Adrien Broner on PPV would outsell Ward, Kovalev and Golovkin. because mofos would pay big money to see him get laid out.

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        #93
        Originally posted by g27region View Post
        A person who barely knows English brings less attention than a person who's native in America. If you don't agree with this fact it's not the reason to get emotional like a female and talk **** on the internet. Pacquiao situation was different

        He had a solid Asian American/Fillipinos fanbase who could relate to him (potential fanbase of Russian emmigrants in America who could relate to Kovalev would be much smaller) plus Pac defeated boxing superstar like De La Hoya and plenty of Mexicans with solid fanbase and his rivalry with the other superstar Floyd was easy to promote
        Canelo does just fine..soooo?

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          #94
          Originally posted by g27region View Post
          Stop sending me that mother****ing pic all the time. I've already said that Latin fighters is the only exception out of that rule because they got the biggest fanbase in States who always backs them up and supports them no matter what, Canelo who doesn't even speak English would be a good example of that, the size of Russian popluation in America isn't nowhere near as big as Latin American population in US, it's a statistical fact, despite of what Kovalev said.

          Fighters from other countries doesn't have the same fanbase in America to rely on
          you keep moving the goal post to fit your agenda

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            #95
            Originally posted by DeLorean View Post
            meanwhile a guy accused of being "boring" for half his career happens to be the richest boxer to ever do it.. it's not about boring or exciting, it's about charisma..having a personality that draws fans to you, whether to admire or critique you..to cheer you on or laugh at your pain... Adrien Broner on PPV would outsell Ward, Kovalev and Golovkin. because mofos would pay big money to see him get laid out.

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              #96
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
              How is Duva not letting Kovalev be Kovalev? Isn't he pretty much himself all the time?
              It just seems like there are a lot of deleted tweets & things that suggest they wanna steer him a certain more classic way, broke kid with talent makes good, that has a low ceiling & high failure rate for a foreign guy in the US historical + everyone has seen it a million times who watches boxing so its boring & uninteresting. And from many 3rd party accounts Kovalev seems like a bit of an ******* & I don't believe Main Events wants that to be the story. More importantly they don't grasp how that could ultimately work out better for Kovalev & themselves in the business of boxing if he was just his natural kinda an ******* self. The ******* is an underutilized role in boxing.

              I think my biggest issue with all that is I think Kovalev was desperate enough when he signed with Duva that he gots baby elephant syndrome & would do anything Duva asked of him including trying to be promoted in a more classic way that requires him to be a more humble & respectful guy then he actual is. And if he was more allowed to be himself it'd actually benefit him more & put him on better after boxing than anything Duva has or could do for him.

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                #97
                Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                Maybe he should put some of the blame on Duva and Main Events, maybe it didn't sell well because Kov has the personality of a rock and the attitude of a loser and a as.shole but Main Events still tried to market his vanilla personality as a quasi good guy. They should have gone full heel with Kov. I think since the fights ended people realize it's not that far of a stretch
                100% agree minus the attitude of a loser. I think he's just thinking emotionally about this or trolling trying to get Ward to say something to help get their 2nd fight made. But the main point you are saying I'm with.

                That special that was made was like exhibit A in my this promotion ****** stance. Not to say it wasn't a good piece of work that I didn't enjoy cuz I thought it was quality viewing & I personally enjoyed it, but it was not a good promotional tool to encourage or entice people in to wanting to see these two guys who didn't know or barely knew who either guy was. In fact the whole premise of the piece seemed to wanna make out both guys as good guys who have some very similar aspects to their background despite their growing up in entirely different environments & countries, Neither guy stood out as an interesting personality that you'd wanna see win & neither guy stood as a villain you'd wanna see lose. Hell I was kinda hoping for a draw after watching that lil doc. I think you need some aspect of personality or good vs bad to sell boxing in this era & there was none of that in this fight, there was no attempt to create that sorta spin in this fight. Thus 165,000 PPV buys is the outcome which is probably the same amount of people who'd have bought the fight if didn't do any marketing for the fight.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  It just seems like there are a lot of deleted tweets & things that suggest they wanna steer him a certain more classic way, broke kid with talent makes good, that has a low ceiling & high failure rate for a foreign guy in the US historical + everyone has seen it a million times who watches boxing so its boring & uninteresting. And from many 3rd party accounts Kovalev seems like a bit of an ******* & I don't believe Main Events wants that to be the story. More importantly they don't grasp how that could ultimately work out better for Kovalev & themselves in the business of boxing if he was just his natural kinda an ******* self. The ******* is an underutilized role in boxing.

                  I think my biggest issue with all that is I think Kovalev was desperate enough when he signed with Duva that he gots baby elephant syndrome & would do anything Duva asked of him including trying to be promoted in a more classic way that requires him to be a more humble & respectful guy then he actual is. And if he was more allowed to be himself it'd actually benefit him more & put him on better after boxing than anything Duva has or could do for him.
                  Great post. Agree completely, Duva should let Kov be the bad guy and it will make him a much bigger draw.

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                    #99
                    Childish, immature commentary from Kovalev.

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                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      you need to wipe up that dribble around your mouth.....

                      and then you need to keep your ****-warmer shut
                      Ward got a really big ass dome, you think he is using steroids?

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