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    #21
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    how much bigger would lomachenko be if he cut weight to get to 140 and 147 like tim bradley? tim bradley is huge. we've seen him between fights starting to look like his dad, who is built like a retired football player instead of a boxer. this is a p4p list. obviously a 130 lber isn't beating a WW. if they were the same size lomachenko would embarass 2016 / 2017 tim bradley. murder him. he's a better boxer, hits harder [again, this is a p4p list so we are handicapping for size and assuming they are both 130 or both 147 lbers naturally,] he's faster, bradley would just have no answer.
    Bradley is 5'6 and Loma is 5'7, so size wise it is just the way Bradley is built. He has the athleticism to match Loma's speed. Pound for pound wise Loma hits harder, yet Bradley can rock you and makes you honest. Bradley when he start bouncing and start having his rhythm it's basically over against the opposition he had been in mostly B+ level opposition and some A-level. We just don't now how Lomachenko can react to a guy that is just as fast, just as smart as him, and has one of the best upper body and head movement in the sport and with a left hook that basically schooled everybody in front of him not named manny pacquiao.

    The 2008 - 2014 Bradley not the current 2016-2017 bradley who is passed his prime.

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      #22
      Wlad didn't fight in 2016 and Rigo only fought once.

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        #23
        No Yamanaka, Nietes or Estrada in the top 25?

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          #24
          Brook has no resume.
          Neither does Eubank.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BM dnobagaV View Post
            Brook has no resume.
            Neither does Eubank.
            Brook did beat Porter and Senchenko

            Eubank is ranked at #10 at 168, it's a weak division so I don't think there are ten guys better than him

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              #26
              Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
              quite possibly the worst pound for pound list ive ever seen.
              +1 . . . .

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                #27
                Where's Usyk ?

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                  #28
                  1 ward/Kovalev
                  2 canelo
                  3 golovkin
                  4 gonzalez
                  5 crawford
                  6 pacquiao
                  7 Lomachenko
                  8 Rigondeaux
                  9 garcia/thurman winner

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko View Post
                    1. A. Ward 31-0(15) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
                    2. M. Pacquaio 59-6-2(38) (147) WBO, Lineal
                    3. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (115) WBC
                    4. S. Kovalev 30-1-1(26) (175)
                    5. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
                    6. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
                    7. V. Lomachenko 7-1(5) (130) WBO
                    8. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
                    9. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)
                    10. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super)
                    11. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO
                    12. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal
                    13. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147)
                    14. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC
                    15. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World)
                    16. J. Linares 41-3(27) (135) WBA, WBC (Diamond), Ring, Lineal
                    17. N. Inoue 11-0(9) (115) WBO
                    18. L. Santa Cruz 32-1-1(18) (126)
                    19. K. Brook 36-1(25) (147) IBF
                    20. Jermall Charlo 25-0(19) (154) IBF
                    21. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super)
                    22. A. Povetkin 31-1(23) (201+)
                    23. S. Porter 26-2-1(16) (147)
                    24. A. Broner 32-2(24) (140)
                    25. A. Joshua 18-0(18) (201+) IBF

                    Tell me if there's anyone on this list that you don't agree with
                    I thought Kovalev clearly beat Ward so I would have Kovalev 1st and Ward about 5th. GGG is top 5 or higher on every list in the world except yours. Why do you keep saying GGG is one of your favorite boxers when he clearly isn't? As long as GGG dominates and KOs everyone he fights I have him 2nd behind Kovalev. PFP is not about resume. It's about how good a fighter you are for your weight class right now, today. After Wlad's sorry showing in his last fight he has no business being 9th. Pacquiao has seen better days. He is top 10 but not 2nd. I would put Loma at 5th and drop Crawford to 7th. Thurman should be higher than Bradley and Garcia. Who did they beat who is as good as Porter. All Garcia has done at 147 is beat washed up Guerrero and Paulie. Santa Cruz should be much higher and just below Frampton. Broner is not one of the 25 best PFP fighters in the world.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko View Post
                      1. A. Ward 31-0(15) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
                      2. M. Pacquaio 59-6-2(38) (147) WBO, Lineal
                      3. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (115) WBC
                      4. S. Kovalev 30-1-1(26) (175)
                      5. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
                      6. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
                      7. V. Lomachenko 7-1(5) (130) WBO
                      8. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
                      9. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)
                      10. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super)
                      11. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO
                      12. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal
                      13. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147)
                      14. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC
                      15. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World)
                      16. J. Linares 41-3(27) (135) WBA, WBC (Diamond), Ring, Lineal
                      17. N. Inoue 11-0(9) (115) WBO
                      18. L. Santa Cruz 32-1-1(18) (126)
                      19. K. Brook 36-1(25) (147) IBF
                      20. Jermall Charlo 25-0(19) (154) IBF
                      21. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super)
                      22. A. Povetkin 31-1(23) (201+)
                      23. S. Porter 26-2-1(16) (147)
                      24. A. Broner 32-2(24) (140)
                      25. A. Joshua 18-0(18) (201+) IBF

                      Tell me if there's anyone on this list that you don't agree with
                      I thought Kovalev clearly beat Ward so I would have Kovalev 1st and Ward about 5th. GGG is top 5 or higher on every list in the world except yours. Why do you keep saying GGG is one of your favorite boxers when he clearly isn't? As long as GGG dominates and KOs everyone he fights I have him 2nd behind Kovalev. PFP is not about resume. It's about how good a fighter you are for your weight class right now, today. After Wlad's sorry showing in his last fight he has no business being 9th. Pacquiao has seen better days. He is top 10 but not 2nd. I would put Loma at 5th and drop Crawford to 7th. Thurman should be higher than Bradley and Garcia. Who did they beat who is as good as Porter. All Garcia has done at 147 is beat washed up Guerrero and Paulie. Santa Cruz should be much higher and just below Frampton. Broner is not one of the 25 best PFP fighters in the world.

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