P4P Rankings For End Of 2016!!

[Madison Boxing]

1. A. Ward 31-0(15) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
2. M. Pacquaio 59-6-2(38) (147) WBO, Lineal
3. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (115) WBC
4. S. Kovalev 30-1-1(26) (175)
5. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
6. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
7. V. Lomachenko 7-1(5) (130) WBO
8. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
9. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)
10. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super)
11. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO
12. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal
13. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147)
14. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC
15. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World)
16. J. Linares 41-3(27) (135) WBA, WBC (Diamond), Ring, Lineal
17. N. Inoue 11-0(9) (115) WBO
18. L. Santa Cruz 32-1-1(18) (126)
19. K. Brook 36-1(25) (147) IBF
20. Jermall Charlo 25-0(19) (154) IBF
21. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super)
22. A. Povetkin 31-1(23) (201+)
23. S. Porter 26-2-1(16) (147)
24. A. Broner 32-2(24) (140)
25. A. Joshua 18-0(18) (201+) IBF

Tell me if there's anyone on this list that you don't agree with

quite possibly the worst pound for pound list ive ever seen.

[M Bison]

Ward no. 1 lol. If ward retires he would be remembered as the guy who got he gift. He needs to know that.

Don't bite, it's obvious troll bait.

The P4P list isn't serious nor credible he is just trying to wind you up he's a troll.

[M Bison]

quite possibly the worst pound for pound list ive ever seen.

It's just a troll list though nobody in their right mind would take that list seriously, he wants to try and get that reaction because its blatantly obvious a wind up.

[Thraxox]

Don't bite, it's obvious troll bait.

The P4P list isn't serious nor credible he is just trying to wind you up he's a troll.

I believe so. He's been a bit mental in the nag In the last months.

[Sadiqkingofko]

Don't bite, it's obvious troll bait.

The P4P list isn't serious nor credible he is just trying to wind you up he's a troll.

what?? this is my p4p list how am i being a troll??

quite possibly the worst pound for pound list ive ever seen.

lmao, well what don't you agree with

[Sadiqkingofko]

I believe so. He's been a bit mental in the nag In the last months.

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[M Bison]

what?? this is my p4p list how am i being a troll??



lmao, well what don't you agree with

We'll just focus on the top ten to prove to you why you're trolling

1. A. Ward 31-0(15) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
2. M. Pacquaio 59-6-2(38) (147) WBO, Lineal
3. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (115) WBC
4. S. Kovalev 30-1-1(26) (175)
5. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
6. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
7. V. Lomachenko 7-1(5) (130) WBO
8. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
9. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)

Manny Pacquiao has had several losses, he hasn't fought or beat anyone of note in a long time but If you are talking about you rating fighters on overall total achievements then it is obvious Pacquiao would be your number one.

Roman Gonzalez went up a new division, fought the number one guy without any tune-ups yet he is rated below Ward, is it profile of fighters fought or skill of fighters fought and beat that matters most?

If its a P4P list based on resume why is Kovalev at 4th place did he beat Ward?
Obviously we both think so but he didn't get it on paper and you have Ward at first place so who else is on his resume that he beat is better than David Haye, Donaire, Walters, Lemieux, Lara, Santa Cruz and Postol?
47yo Hopkins, I don't think so.

Too many holes to pick away at with your logic on how you scored the list that's why its a troll list, If you just said this is my personal opinion on the list and just that alone I'd have just disagreed with the list and thought you were biased but you wouldn't have been wrong because it would have been on your opinion not based on "resume".

[New England]

you don't make a p4p liste based primarily on resume. you base it on ability, which is omething you evaluate based on who he fought and how, but it is not the same as evaluatinga resume as a whole. that takes far too much into account that has no bearing on what a fighter can do now.

you have to consider only a fighter's position currently, or really, in his next fight. that's why people have lomachenko higher on a p4p list right now. he's without a doubt one of the top 5 most able fighters on the planet. he'd murder tim bradley if they were the same size, for instance. but tim bradley has a borderline hall of fame resume and lomachenko has 7 fights.


if all fighters were of the same size, who would be the best? that's the question you ask. you make that estimation based on performance lately, not on what he's done five years ago. unless he's still the same fighter [or better] he was five years ago.

p4p lists are primarily an evaluation of contemporary ability.

[Thraxox]

you don't make a p4p liste based primarily on resume. you base it on ability, which is omething you evaluate based on who he fought and how, but it is not the same as evaluatinga resume as a whole. that takes far too much into account that has no bearing on what a fighter can do now.

you have to consider only a fighter's position currently, or really, in his next fight. that's why people have lomachenko higher on a p4p list right now. he's without a doubt one of the top 5 most able fighters on the planet. he'd murder tim bradley if they were the same size, for instance. but tim bradley has a borderline hall of fame resume and lomachenko has 7 fights.


if all fighters were of the same size, who would be the best? that's the question you ask. you make that estimation based on performance lately, not on what he's done five years ago. unless he's still the same fighter [or better] he was five years ago.

p4p lists are primarily an evaluation of contemporary ability.

To be honest bro. You are correct, but one thing I would disagree. Lomachenko is not going to be Murdering bradley. Do you see how much of a monster Bradley was in his prime at 140? At 140 he was so much faster than anyone elses, and yes that would include matching Loma's speed and ring I.Q, you could never question Bradley's ring I.Q and the will to win.

[New England]

To be honest bro. You are correct, but one thing I would disagree. Lomachenko is not going to be Murdering bradley. Do you see how much of a monster Bradley was in his prime at 140? At 140 he was so much faster than anyone elses, and yes that would include matching Loma's speed and ring I.Q, you could never question Bradley's ring I.Q and the will to win.

how much bigger would lomachenko be if he cut weight to get to 140 and 147 like tim bradley? tim bradley is huge. we've seen him between fights starting to look like his dad, who is built like a retired football player instead of a boxer. this is a p4p list. obviously a 130 lber isn't beating a WW. if they were the same size lomachenko would embarass 2016 / 2017 tim bradley. murder him. he's a better boxer, hits harder [again, this is a p4p list so we are handicapping for size and assuming they are both 130 or both 147 lbers naturally,] he's faster, bradley would just have no answer.