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Few excellent fights in cruz- frampton/garcia-thurman....but then the garbage to start the year of Lara-foreman, Dirrel-?/ and Broner-granados. And am certain Wilder will b matched against another obscure European tomato can aka Duhappas/Spitzka
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostSchaefer returning looks to be a good thing. Mares being back is great because that dude will fight anyone. Charlo looks like he will as well.
If Russell, Stevenson, and some other guys all make meaningful fights in 2017 I think we will all be happy.
I also hope that Al and Bob make the fights we want.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostIn my opinion, Gary Russell Jr. should be fighting Selby or Mares no later than April! What the **** happened to Amir Imam and Omar Figueroa Jr.?
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostIn my opinion, Gary Russell Jr. should be fighting Selby or Mares no later than April! What the **** happened to Amir Imam and Omar Figueroa Jr.?
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As long as all the fights are on Showtime, then it is the same old, same old. PBC was supposed to bring boxing back from the "other" bin of sports websites. Refusing to try and make new fans is not what PBC was billed as. Charlo-Williams was a Showtime fight. You can call it PBC or anything else but when it is on a premium channel, it is not reaching new fans. Fights like Charlo-Williams, Frampton-Santa Cruz 2 are the fights everyone wanted to see on PBC. Show blatant mismatches to people who don't follow boxing and then only put the good fights on where the die-hards see it.
154 is stacked with talent. But two of them are twin brothers who will never fight each other and one of them shares a trainer with Lara so that fight will never happen, Andrade apparently has forgotten how to sign his name. I get ducking Jermell Charlo, but ducking Culcay?!? Are you serious? Andrade was good years ago, but it is ancient history since he was in a decent fight.
No one is going to fight Spence. He would end Brook's career. Charlo-Williams was a top notch match up and so is Thurman-Porter. But two good fights a year isn't going to cut it.
Maybe Al was waiting so Schaefer can get his cut of the pie. After all, a lot of fighters signed with Haymon wouldn't be if not for Schaefer. I hope so. I was really pumped when PBC started. But over two years later I can still count the number of good fights on one hand.
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Originally posted by Edward90 View PostI'm glad someone came out and said that the cakewalks are ending and that it appears that many of the Haymon fighters have been okay with the cakewalks that have been given. Khan is going to have to do better than Chris Algieri. That 154 division is heating. 147 is about to come with it. 135 is about to get going. It's time for Broner to get on his grizzly... Somebody tell Lara that no one is interested in him fighting Foreman. Gary Russell, where you at? This bolds well for the Jacobs-GGG fight going down. Somebody wake Stevenson's ass up. I know I'm missing others. The Haymon stable of boxers will either decide to sit on the sideline (Demetrius Andrade) or shut their asses up and take $1mil plus for competitive fights. Too many good fights to be made for none of them to happen. Let's go!!!
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Fighting everyone would mean fighting against other promoters stables and I dont think PBC wants that work. Top Ranks stable is small but has the talent on their side to literally take over certain divisions.
No one in PBC's 126lb division can hang with Valdez except maybe Russel.
No one at 130 or 135 (except Easter) can hang with Lomencheko.
No one at 140 can hang with Bud Crawford and Id bet Crawford schools PBC overrated 147lb diva division.
PBC has 154 on lock except the $ is with Canelo.
@160 I think Jacobs has a really good punchers chance BUT its still GGG's division and hes still HIGHLY favored.
& at 168 Zurdo may edge Jack whom I am picking to TKO Degale.
175 is Wards division now and regardless of who what anyone thinks who won between Kov and Ward. this isnt a PBC division either.
The only Ace PBC has in their sleeve is Wilder at HW but for some reason they are keeping that Ace hidden.
All and all, PBC fighters are not fighting everyone if they are not fighting outside the PBC brand which makes for a lot of second and third place ribbons being handed out.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostIn my opinion, Gary Russell Jr. should be fighting Selby or Mares no later than April! What the **** happened to Amir Imam and Omar Figueroa Jr.?
As someone else has said, Imam is with King. He also was exposed earlier this year. Good fighter, but like Figueroa probably never going to rule any division.
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What an absolute genius Haymon is. Spend the first two years of your business blowing through hundreds of millions of dollars while not turning anything resembling a profit, putting out the worst possible product, scaring away casuals and creating disillusionment among hardcore fans and then waiting until you've damaged your brand to such an extent that it cannot be recovered before finally delivering what you should've been delivering from the very start.
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