Is Andre Ward the last completely clean elite fighter in the sport?

[Herr Schmeling]

Ward refused testing in the past. He is a certified cheat.

[Sid-Knee]

Americans have proven to be the dirtiest nation in boxing. Lots of their guys have been popped. And that's on ****ty tests. So i'd be careful where Ward is concerned.

[Sid-Knee]

I don't put any russian in there with there history of meldonium

Are you for real? And you're American. You know, the nation with the most caught dopers? Duh.

[keith_head]

ha im su****ious of pretty much every heavyweight. David haye looked like he put on a good chunk of muscle too in his retiement when he wasnt getting tested, certainly a substantial amount for someone to put on in there mid 30's who'd been weight training for many years

Yeah this is true.

It's a great way to hop on a cycle or two.

[SplitSecond]

Bradley was the first to take VADA on yearly bases...

No he wasnt. That'd be Donaire.

[monkeyboy]

Yeah, no. That's a cop out. Nothing about Andre Ward shows substance usage. The testing just validates it all.

I'm delighted that you don't suspect a favourite fighter of yours of PEDs.

Meanwhile in the real world doping is rife, easy and hard to catch. We should suspect ALL athletes of doping. You do not even need to see contributory evidence such as unexplained IV, working with known PED enablers (Conte, Memo, Balco labs), changes in appearance, size and many other indicators to understand that there is widespread usage. PEDs are not magic and if used in a focussed manner can provide lots of advantages without showing size gain. They are particularly effective for muscle growth but their primary MO is to promote recovery which allows much more intensive training. If you train for speed and stamina whilst using steroids you will increase speed and stamina far quicker than unassisted with little or no muscle mass gain.

Only poorly advised users get caught under the current rules. All the big drug cheats were caught well after the events they were competing in because they were passing the majority of the drugs tests.

Year round, unpredictable testing protocols are the only way to clean up sport.

Is Andre Ward using? Probably. Same as everyone else. He's a great fighter and it doesn't take away from him more than anyone else.

It's just part of pro sports.

[al-Xander]

Ward refused testing in the Abraham fight. It wasn't even about blood testing. It was urine. And there was no outrage from the same floydhype group.