Is the "GGG" a major draw in the UK (using Brook's name) the biggest stretch?

[Eastcoast]

This ******ed thread. If Brook was such a mega-draw relative to Golovkin - why did Eddie Hearn put his undefeated 147lbs champion in the ring with Golovkin in the first place????

What ****** logic are you using to take your 'supposed ppv cash cow' and putting him into a fight that not only is he highly likely to lose, but also get seriously hurt (both of which he did)?

If Brook was such a hot draw, Hearn could've protected him and kept the Vargas fight on the table.

[just the facts]

This ******ed thread. If Brook was such a mega-draw relative to Golovkin - why did Eddie Hearn put his undefeated 147lbs champion in the ring with Golovkin in the first place????

What ****** logic are you using to take your 'supposed ppv cash cow' and putting him into a fight that not only is he highly likely to lose, but also get seriously hurt (both of which he did)?

If Brook was such a hot draw, Hearn could've protected him and kept the Vargas fight on the table.

Because team Brook thought he could win? That's what boxing managers do when they have confidence is their fighter, something team g string just doesn't seem to have.

[robertzimmerman]

you are one dumb son of a bytche. Canelo is Canelo so that's a wash. At the time of Canelo/Cotto, Cotto had already main evented many successful PPVs and heavily anticipated HBO fights and they did 900k PPV sales. Now your dumb azz wants the world to believe that that g string (with a flop PPV under his belt and ZERO quality wins) is gonna out draw Cotto. This with the PPV community hung over from buying Pac/Floyd. Two top flight fighters willing to fight anyone could only do 160K and your dumb azz thinks g string/canelo will do one million PPV sales? That's some man crush you got going on there.

You still don't get it do you.

Again, although Cotto and Canelo are huge names and are obviously bigger than GG, their fight wasn't highly anticipated. It still did great numbers, but it wasn't a mouth watering fight. And that was because Cotto is a faded fighter, he's never been a MW, and he only won the lineal title due to Martinez being at the end of the road with bad knees. So you'd got 2 popular fighters, again, non of who were MW's, fighting in a fight that didn't really mean much in the boxing world.

I can't explain it to you any better than that.

Although GG's viewing figures are nowhere near Cotto's and he's not as popular, his fight with Canelo is the most highly anticipated fight in world boxing right now. It's a much more relevant fight than Cotto-Canelo. The saga has got the whole boxing world wanting to see it. You can see this if you go on any online boxing forum, any boxing news site, any social media outlet, or you tune in to any sports radio stations.

Do you understand?

You're so fixated on the past, you can't see what's happening right in front of you.

Sometimes a popular fighter paired together with a not so popular fighter, can actually outsell 2 popular fighters. It depends on the circumstances.

You've got to forget GG's low viewing figures with Lemieux. They're no longer relevant. It was over a year ago and a year in boxing is a long time. GG is gaining popularity with each fight, and if his fight with Jacobs is aired on HBO PPV, it will dwarf the Lemieux figures. Sadly, Cotto is a name of the past. He's no longer as relevant, as his best days are behind him and there's not many big relevant fights that are out there for him. GG is more relevant at this stage. Nobody is talking about Miguel Cotto, but everyone is talking about GG on a daily basis.

If GG beats Jacobs and Canelo looks great in his next few fights and then they meet towards the end of next year, the fight will be huge.

Now if Cotto-Canelo made $58m from 900,000 buys, I'm sure that GG-Canelo would definitely surpass that. So yes, it could well sell more than 1 million PPV's.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Wasn't it a $20 or 20GBP PPV? Definitely much better than he did in the states but still not bigger than Canelo vs Khan in the US, correct?
Where does AJ stand in PPV buys?
I'm trying to get a sense of just how big GGG/Brook was or wasn't as I never gave it much thought before.

Kell Brook is huge in the UK, GGG is very well thought of with the his fights having been on Sky numerous times and even more so on Boxnation.

GGG rag dolled Mackllin and Murray, two guys well thought of in the UK and used to their entire careers being shown the last 3-4 year. GGG's highlights were streamed continuously on Sky, bar the ones Boxnation had exclusive coverage to.

GGG will do top numbers against DeGale and Smith, they'll increase on their former numbers of the Brook fight, for the smile fact the UK and held Brook in such high regard and the way GGG just manhandled him.

Brook was considered to have acquitted himself well in that fight and will headline another ppv against Spence and likely fill a soccer stadium in his home town, 30-35k potentially, I'm not sure on the Sheffield capacity, if Brook wins he'll headline Wembley against Khan IMO. They'll both sell out, Spence needs a KO to win.

[just the facts]

You still don't get it do you.

Again, although Cotto and Canelo are huge names and are obviously bigger than GG, their fight wasn't highly anticipated. It still did great numbers, but it wasn't a mouth watering fight. And that was because Cotto is a faded fighter, he's never been a MW, and he only won the lineal title due to Martinez being at the end of the road with bad knees. So you'd got 2 popular fighters, again, non of who were MW's, fighting in a fight that didn't really mean much in the boxing world.

I can't explain it to you any better than that.

Although GG's viewing figures are nowhere near Cotto's and he's not as popular, his fight with Canelo is the most highly anticipated fight in world boxing right now. It's a much more relevant fight than Cotto-Canelo. The saga has got the whole boxing world wanting to see it. You can see this if you go on any online boxing forum, any boxing news site, any social media outlet, or you tune in to any sports radio stations.

Do you understand?

You're so fixated on the past, you can't see what's happening right in front of you.

Sometimes a popular fighter paired together with a not so popular fighter, can actually outsell 2 popular fighters. It depends on the circumstances.

You've got to forget GG's low viewing figures with Lemieux. They're no longer relevant. It was over a year ago and a year in boxing is a long time. GG is gaining more poularity with each fight, and if his fight with Jacobs is aired on HBO PPV, it will dwarf the Lemieux figures. Sadly, Cotto is a name of the past. He's no longer as relevant, as his best days are behind him and there's not many big relevant fights that are out there for him. GG is more relevant at this stage. Nobody is talking about Miguel Cotto, but everyone is talking about GG on a daily basis.

If GG beats Jacobs and Canelo looks great in his next few fights and then they meet towards the end of next year, the fight will be huge.

Now if Cotto-Canelo made $58m from 900,000 buys, I'm sure that GG-Canelo would definitely surpass that. So yes, it could well sell more than 1 million PPV's.

What you just don't seem to grasp is that hugely successful PPVs are driven by casual fans. Hard core boxing fans numbers will always be there. Canelo/Cotto were both well known names to casual fans. What I think your basic problem is that you're vastly overrating g string drawing ability. No way is it near Cotto's and they did 900K not a million.

Highly anticipated? Sure, among hard core boxing fans. Ward/Kovalev was a highly anticipated fight as well and all they got is 160K. Add into the fact that the PPV buying public is suffering a hangover from plopping down $100 for the sour Pac/Floyd fight and no way Canelo/g string does 1 million PPV sales. 500k - 650K.

[robertzimmerman]

Kell Brook is huge in the UK, GGG is very well thought of with the his fights having been on Sky numerous times and even more so on Boxnation.

GGG rag dolled Mackllin and Murray, two guys well thought of in the UK and used to their entire careers being shown the last 3-4 year. GGG's highlights were streamed continuously on Sky, bar the ones Boxnation had exclusive coverage to.

GGG will do top numbers against DeGale and Smith, they'll increase on their former numbers of the Brook fight, for the smile fact the UK and held Brook in such high regard and the way GGG just manhandled him.

Brook was considered to have acquitted himself well in that fight and will headline another ppv against Spence and likely fill a soccer stadium in his home town, 30-35k potentially, I'm not sure on the Sheffield capacity, if Brook wins he'll headline Wembley against Khan IMO. They'll both sell out, Spence needs a KO to win.

This is a great post, with some great points, apart from the part where you've said Brook is huge in the U.K.

He isn't.

[Jewish-Reptile]

This is a great post, with some great points, apart from the part where you've said Brook is huge in the U.K.

He isn't.

LacedUp is Brook huge in the UK ?

[LacedUp]

LacedUp is Brook huge in the UK ?

Not huge.

He's big, but not huge.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Not huge.

He's big, but not huge.

I feel like Brook has become the darling of Sky after Froch retired, he's a ppv fighter only going forward dude will sell out Bramall Lane against Spence surely you agree ?

[robertzimmerman]

What you just don't seem to grasp is that hugely successful PPVs are driven by casual fans. Hard core boxing fans numbers will always be there. Canelo/Cotto were both well known names to casual fans. What I think your basic problem is that you're vastly overrating g string drawing ability. No way is it near Cotto's and they did 900K not a million.

Highly anticipated? Sure, among hard core boxing fans. Ward/Kovalev was a highly anticipated fight as well and all they got is 160K. Add into the fact that the PPV buying public is suffering a hangover from plopping down $100 for the sour Pac/Floyd fight and no way Canelo/g string does 1 million PPV sales. 500k - 650K.

Okay.

There's no point taking this any further.

Let's just hope that we find out one way or another.