Comments Thread For: Nicholas Walters' Surrender Elicits Same Old Song and Dance

[DumpkinsPlus5]

Great Article

[Corelone]

If it wasn't for nut cracking, beer swilling spectators, the whole thing wouldn't exist. Rail at the fans for demanding their moneys worth? I didn't pay to watch someone quit. I can go to skid row and see all the quitters I want.

[ruedboy]

i understand where the writer is coming from but it's not just basement dwelling hermits tossing **** in walters direction. he pretty much reiterated what mayweather says all the time, taking a beating is not cool. .
but..what if floyd had quit after round 2 against mosley? what if marquez decided it was futile to engage pacquiao after being put on his backside the first three minutes? what if ward would've folded after tasting power hes never felt before against the krusher?
i mean comebacks is what boxing is all about, it's why rocky will forever be the greatest boxing film ever, rocky was pretty much getting his skull rattled in every fight and managed to find a way..fans love that. as brutal as that sounds..lets not forget this is a brutal sport.

....and this was just a case of a fighter getting outclassed and clowned, not battered to a bloody pulp. this is roberto duran "no mas" 2016.

Scores were close in the Duran fight. Sugar embarrassed him, sure, but he never outclassed him. Watch the fight.

[danktrees]

part of the problem is the way he quit.

if he wanted to call it a night then he could have done so in a more acceptable way. he could have told his team to call it. or tell his team to throw in the towel once he went back out in the 8th and blocked a few shots with his gloves.

but for him to be on video very clearly telling the ref he's quitting then to say in all post fight interviews that it was his team who decided to stop the fight is a joke.

[krazyn8tive]

Wait wait wait...did Lyle fitzimmons say we shouldn't berate a quitter in a sport? Wow. Just wow. What is happening to our culture? Smh

[angkag]

His corner needs to be taking more heat.

Can't remember which round, but it was quite early that the commentary team pointed out that to start with one person was talking, then it was a different one, then finally all of them.

Walters was lost and asking 'what do I do?', and getting a chorus of voices with no clear advice.

The corner needs to be organised so there is one voice in there for the boxer to listen to, the rest need to shut up.

Not sure what advice would have been good advice given what he was facing, but would be interested to know what an Atlas/Roach/Shields/Sanchez would have been saying to him. One thing you can be sure, it would be loud and clear direction to do something they felt he was capable of at the start of each round to try turn the tide, and Walters wouldn't be left begging for advice from what was a disorganised mess in his corner.

[Tom Cruise]

Loma had literally just put his foot on the gas the previous round. Walters was losing the rounds, but they werent particularly punishing rnds. He was getting outboxed. Nothing more. Until the 7th when Loma started to put his foot down and Walters decided he didnt want to find out what that meant.

He showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability to turn the fight around and a lack of will power in the face of adversity. Which considering his pre fight comments and the context of the fight, is criminal imo.

Why should I support that when I could literally support any one of the other thousands of boxers around the world who keep trying to fight even when things arent going their own way?

[Real Talk85]

Walters is done. He took the dive and the world saw it. He did the same thing Clottey did against Manny and what that other loser did against Wilder. He didn't even throw meaningful punches they were poking shots. I hope we never see him fight again.

[doom_specialist]

Loma had literally just put his foot on the gas the previous round. Walters was losing the rounds, but they werent particularly punishing rnds. He was getting outboxed. Nothing more. Until the 7th when Loma started to put his foot down and Walters decided he didnt want to find out what that meant.

He showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability to turn the fight around and a lack of will power in the face of adversity. Which considering his pre fight comments and the context of the fight, is criminal imo.

Why should I support that when I could literally support any one of the other thousands of boxers around the world who keep trying to fight even when things arent going their own way?

Because what fighter worth his salt would stay in the ring to continue getting pummeled when even their corner doesn't know what to do to turn things around? It wasn't like Walters was gonna start throwing bombs and turn the fight around somehow. Purposefully taking years off of your career for something completely subjective is crap. If Walters stayed in the ring for the rest of the fight, and ended up with a limp or impaired speech, the same people calling him a coward would be asking why he or his corner didn't stop the fight.

Calling Walters a coward would require me to call Duran a coward, and that ain't happening.

[mathed]

Don't agree with the article at all. Walters is one of my favorite boxers but after this stunt, dunno it's hard to support him now. It's not like he was hurt, yeah he was taking shots but he's also making millions of dollars and this is supposed to be his lifelong passion. If he was bloodied up or staggering all over the ring and his corner waived it off, that's a different story.