Comments Thread For: Kovalev vs. Ward - Scoring Cone Validates Tallies By Judges

[HURTFEELINGS]

So if you gave him 6 rounds in a 12 round fight, HOW IS THAT ROBBERY? YOURE A G-STRING FANBOY SO OF COURSE YOU ALWAYS THOUGHT WARD WASNT ANY GOOD, because, as we now know, little g's power would not have any effect on Ward so he, as we all saw, would've got stopped. What else could it be in YOUR eyes, with tears in them...

[Boxing Logic]

wtf????????

Which part couldn't you follow? Your comment is very vague.

[Boxing Logic]

So if you gave him 6 rounds in a 12 round fight, HOW IS THAT ROBBERY? YOURE A G-STRING FANBOY SO OF COURSE YOU ALWAYS THOUGHT WARD WASNT ANY GOOD, because, as we now know, little g's power would not have any effect on Ward so he, as we all saw, would've got stopped. What else could it be in YOUR eyes, with tears in them...

Huh? Ward would stop GGG? He couldn't stop Brand but hey, who knows.... :

It was a robbery because Kovalev clearly won, but the judges gave it to the fighter who clearly lost. I had it 8-4, but even if you had it 6-6, it's still a robbery because 6-6 is the closest you could possibly have it if you're not biased for Ward.

[petegrif]

There is one problem with this argument.

All three judges gave exactly the same score. In a very tight fight, which is what this fight is being represented as having been, that is a very unlikely outcome. Pretty much THE most unlikely outcome.

Going back to your original point. It is as if three meteorologists all looked at data which they knew to have a degree of uncertainty and all came to exactly the same conclusion independently. That is possible but very unlikely.

[The Big Dunn]

Which part couldn't you follow? Your comment is very vague.

I just can't believe you actually think what you posted.

[-PBP-]

There is one problem with this argument.

All three judges gave exactly the same score. In a very tight fight, which is what this fight is being represented as having been, that is a very unlikely outcome. Pretty much THE most unlikely outcome.

Going back to your original point. It is as if three meteorologists all looked at data which they knew to have a degree of uncertainty and all came to exactly the same conclusion independently. That is possible but very unlikely.

I buy this argument 100%. The robbery talks are bogus because a 114-113 card for Ward is reasonable. But the statistical probability that 3 random people score the fight 114-113 Ward is highly unlikely.

[petegrif]

Let's all just kill the sport shall we?

I know there are fanboys here, they have a right. I don't care about that. I don't care who they love.

But I do care about the sport and it's dying.

Promoters and elite boxers are avoiding the very fights that grow the sport. The public don't care about workaday fights. They are brought into the sport by big events. Kill those and the sport is in trouble.

Now add **** officiating and corruption and you have a serious problem.

The last 2 big fights were:
a) MW Pac which was a boring snoozefest - that didn't do the sport any favors
b) K Ward - which resulted in an American crowd in the venue booing the result - not what we want.

Meanwhile we are not having what is likely to be the most entertaining and most wanted fight in boxing - GGG Canelo. But I guess GGG is now real clear what he has to do if the fight ever happens.

And to cap it off, UFC is doing huge business and growing like crazy. Their top fighters are matched up constantly. There are major matchups every couple of months. Audience numbers are through the roof. Why is that? Because this is the entertainment business. Boxing isn't delivering it and UFC is.

It's a sad state of affairs. And for guys to be arguing about the details about this round or that is just missing the point. You're filing the toenails off a dead patient.

[petegrif]

The public is not interested in a bunch of boring journeymen fights or super technical fights they want entertainment. They need personalities and action. And they want the result to accord with their instincts. They're not educated followers of the sport, that takes years. But if we don't entertain them the sport dies. Young people are watching UFC. Fact.

[petegrif]

Haters can dis GGG all they like. But why is a guy from friggin Kazakhstan attracting big audiences? Because he's entertaining. It's that simple. And the sport desperately needs fighters like that. It couldn't possibly be more ironic and sad that when we have a fighter like that, someone growing the sport, people hate on him. It's like people want to murder the sport they say they love. I truly don't get it. The point ISN'T whether GGG is TBE or any other bull**** like that. I don't care how good you think he is or isn't, or how good you think any fighter is or isn't. But if you actually care about the sport the least you can do is respect fighters who bring people to the sport. They're like a blood transfusion. When the patient is bleeding out, you give them blood or they die. Why be the guy who wants to rip the needle out of the patient's arm?

[The Hammer]

Yep. I suspect if it really got intense, as in putting some people on a stand in a courtroom intense, a few would fold and admit this was a payoff. Too many red flags. A ref who just stood there like a ring post, 3 identical scores, too many scribes blabbering their guts out with their various 'it could've went either way' stories, the list goes on. Sorry 'Powers That Be', I'm not buying the b.s. This was a textbook example of a fixed fight. And I'm not in the 'industry' so I can say that with no fear of retaliation for my job.

Excellent post.