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    Originally posted by NoConcoms View Post
    Okay, if you want to play that game, let's play. How can YOU dispute Kovalev outlanding Ward in terms of punches, and power punches according to Compubox, PLUS a knockdown in round two? Ward did land flush shots, but they weren't HURTING Kovalev, which is why he kept moving forward.
    Because boxing is scored on a round by round basis. For instance, hypothetically let's sayKovalev outlanded Ward 50 punches to 25 in round 1. Guess what? That's still a 10-9 round despite Kovalev being up by 25 punches.

    Boxing is scored on a round by round basis.

    I specifically broke down round 10 for you and explained how it was a Ward round.

    And Ward's body punches were hurting and slowing Kovalev down. It was evident in his legs and punch output for the second half of the fight.

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      1---10-9-kovalev
      2---10-8 kovalev
      3---10-9 ward
      4---10-9 kovalev
      5---10-9-ward
      6---10-9 kovalev
      7---10-9-ward
      8---10-9 ward
      9---10-9 ward
      10--10-9 kovalev
      11--10-9 ward
      12--10-9 ward

      114-113 ward.

      Any round scored the opposite changes the result, definitely a close fight so save the robbery bull****.

      Too many people here don't know how to score a fight. Defense counts, body blows count, ring generalship counts.

      There is more to it than just who lands the harder punches.

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        Kov 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 10
        Ward 9 8 9 9 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9

        Kovalev 116
        Ward 111

        Many rounds were close and could go either way, but I can't accept a decision in Wards favor any stronger than a split decision. A UD is irresponsible here imo.

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          Originally posted by NoConcoms View Post
          Fair and unbias here. Although rounds like 9 probably could have gone either way. Same with round 12.
          9 and 12 could've gone either way?

          9 was one of the most clear Ward rounds. He almost knocked him through the ropes and snapped his head back on countless punches. What did Kovalev do? He hit nothing but air in retaliation.

          In round 12, Ward clearly landed all the noticeable punches. From the left hook to start the round, to the left jab to the body followed immediately by the overhand right towards the first minute and a half. I can break it down for you second by second if you like?

          Those were clear Ward rounds without a doubt.

          From rounds 5-12, the only round I can possibly concede to Kovalev is the 6th round. That's it.
          Last edited by Chollo Vista; 11-20-2016, 09:45 PM.

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            I gave Wards round 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, and 12. Kovalev won rounds 1, 2, 4, 6, and 10.

            114-113 to Ward.

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              Originally Posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
              after watching the first half i have it 5-1 to kovalev. 1,2,3,4 and 6. watched the 5th round twice because it was to close, lederman also gave it to ward and if you ask me it could have gone to kova too. andre snaped his head a couple of times with a couple of lefts, that was the most visible thing there. so far ward's wrestling tactics aren't doing nothing for him. in the sixth kovalev hurt ward with 2 or 3 right hands. also ward's face doen't look so well.

              59-54 kovalev so far


              7-in the first minute of the seventh nothing happened, nothing at all. then ward starts to land with the jab, snaps kova's head a couple of times. grabs and tries to work his body. lands 3 or 4 punches, that the HBO guys praises but kovalev also lands in the inside too. they exchange rabbit punches, kovalev rocks him with a straight left hand. seventh round for ward. this is the first round that i trully see ward winning.


              8-first 30 seconds of the 8th is only wrestling, nothing happens for both. nothing happens in the next 30 seconds. so in the first minute is more wrestling, ward lande a couple of body shots and kova to the head a couple in the clinch. ward keeps punching while byrd tries to break them. the next minute the most meaningull thing are 3 jabs to the body and left hand to the chin for ward. ward ends the round with 3 good body shots. this wrestling is getting very boring. another for ward

              9-first 30 seconds, more wrestling they both land body shots in the clinch. they break. they both exchange jabs to the body, kovalev lands a right hand over ward's shoulder. ward in returns lands another jab upstairs. kovalev lands a couple of left hands, they land flush, wards tieds up kovalev push him away. best punch for ward is a right to the body kovalev returns with a two punch combination. kovalev with another right hand. ward breathing with his mouth open. kovalev ends the round with a good combination. round for kovalev

              10-nothing happens in the first 30 seconds, ward rushes in kovalev pushes him away and more wrestling. in the next 30 seconds, a couple of jabs for kovalev, ward mises badly with a left hook. they trade a couple of jabs upstairs, they both land. in the inside they both land kova upstairs, ward with more low blows that body shots. kova counters ward big time with a straight right hand. they both trade jabs upstairs and land. kova ends the round with another right hand. and another round for kovalev.

              HBO and hunter keep saying kovalev is tired but to me ward looks more tired than him even though kova does look tired, the only positive thing for ward in this round is that sergey was bleeding trough the nose (i didn't notice if the bleeding started in an earlier round) also at this point max and roy are insufferable, my god get ward's dick out your mouths

              11-nothing happens in the first minute aside a couple of low blows from ward, byrd warns him. ward lands a jab that pops sergey's head back and follows with a left to the body. they both trade left jabs upstairs and land. kova hurts ward with a right hand with one minute 15 left in the round. another right hand. andre follows with a left to the body and left to the head that backs kovalev down, sergey takes ward's punches way better than ward takes his. good jab by ward, good jab by kovalev. ward literaly running away from sergey right now. andre pushes ward down to the canvas. ward closes the round with a good jab, snaps sergey's head back. close round for ward

              12-ward starts the round with a good left hook. another good left hook by ward in the first 30 seconds of the final round. jab to the body and right upstairs for ward. kovalev responds with a good lef hook, backs andre dow. now ward pushes foward, land a couple of punches and they wrestle some more, rabbit punches by both fighters. they clinch, ward lands a left to the head and kovalev follows up with a couple of body shots. ward responds with a left to the body of his own. and kovalev again with a body shot. low blow by kovalev. close round but ward edges with a couple of good body shots at the end. round for ward.

              K-W
              10-9
              10-8
              10-9
              10-9
              9-10
              10-9
              9-10
              9-10
              10-9
              10-9
              9-10
              9-10



              115-112 for kovalev.

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                Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                From rounds 5-12, the only round I can possibly concede to Kovalev is the 6th round. That's it.
                And that right there proves how bias you are. The poll in the other thread is proving who THE PEOPLE thought won the fight. Thank you very much for your opinion, but you are wrong here.

                The fix was clearly in, and if you think Ward had a clean sweep of 6-12 you're effing delusional.

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                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                  Kov 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 10
                  Ward 9 8 9 9 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9

                  Kovalev 116
                  Ward 111

                  Many rounds were close and could go either way, but I can't accept a decision in Wards favor any stronger than a split decision. A UD is irresponsible here imo.
                  i think ward close the fight better, i gave him the last 2 rounds. the championship rounds, but the thing is that he did **** in the first half, he almost gave away the first six rounds plus the KD. after the 10th it was impossible for him to win without a KO or at least a KD or two.

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                    I just rewatched it scoring every close round that I could for Ward:

                    1---10-9-kovalev
                    2---10-8 kovalev
                    3---10-9 kovalev
                    4---10-9 kovalev
                    5---10-9-ward
                    6---10-9 kovalev
                    7---10-9-ward
                    8---10-9 ward
                    9---10-9 ward
                    10--10-9 kovalev
                    11--10-9 ward
                    12--10-9 ward

                    114-113 Kovalev. Fight night I had it 115-112. And not only that the rounds that Kovalev won were much more decisive than the ones I gave to Ward.

                    I think that Ward is the much better fighter but that Kovalev is just too big for him. Personally I think Ward should be at 168. I know he had a hard time with the weight but he was inactive for a long stretch. I sure as hell don't want him fighting Stevenson.

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                      Originally posted by Buckfever View Post
                      I just rewatched it scoring every close round that I could for Ward:

                      1---10-9-kovalev
                      2---10-8 kovalev
                      3---10-9 kovalev
                      4---10-9 kovalev
                      5---10-9-ward
                      6---10-9 kovalev
                      7---10-9-ward
                      8---10-9 ward
                      9---10-9 ward
                      10--10-9 kovalev
                      11--10-9 ward
                      12--10-9 ward

                      114-113 Kovalev. Fight night I had it 115-112. And not only that the rounds that Kovalev won were much more decisive than the ones I gave to Ward.

                      I think that Ward is the much better fighter but that Kovalev is just too big for him. Personally I think Ward should be at 168. I know he had a hard time with the weight but he was inactive for a long stretch. I sure as hell don't want him fighting Stevenson.
                      That's about as an objective opinion as you could possibly have. Good call.

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