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    #31
    Originally posted by Canelo and GGG View Post
    well i know you love GGG Maxi but if K2 dont want to spend some money to give GGG good rivals,we wont see anybody good fighting with him,nobody will risk for 500k-1m
    Well, this is, of course, the problem, isn't it. If Golovkin offered Floyd type paydays, everyone would want to get in the ring with him. Problem is he doesn't. Now if you've got maybe $5 mil dollars for 3 fights (or 4) fights in a year how do you spend it? Do you blow $1.5 mil on a Lara say, and then find you can't afford 2 Quillins and a BJ (sorry couldn't resist )?: Do you spend that money on Lara hoping it ups your marketability enough to persuade HBO to dig a bit deeper for your next fight? Offer Erislandy half a mil out of pocket to sweeten the deal, only to possibly find that six months down the line the only difference is you're half a mil lighter? I'm not passing judgement, just outlining the kind of choices that need to be made by Golovkin - in fact the same choices that need to be made by any fighter. Maybe they should take a few more risks with it, certainly I'd like to see Golovkin in a testing fight (though Degale, Jack or Zurdo would be more to my preference), but as I'm fond of saying, it ain't me that's gotta put Golovkin's kid through college. Easy to second guess when it ain't your money. The same goes for anyone criticising other fighters for how they choose to conduct their careers.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
      Well, this is, of course, the problem, isn't it. If Golovkin offered Floyd type paydays, everyone would want to get in the ring with him. Problem is he doesn't. Now if you've got maybe $5 mil dollars for 3 fights (or 4) fights in a year how do you spend it? Do you blow $1.5 mil on a Lara say, and then find you can't afford 2 Quillins and a BJ (sorry couldn't resist )?: Do you spend that money on Lara hoping it ups your marketability enough to persuade HBO to dig a bit deeper for your next fight? Offer Erislandy half a mil out of pocket to sweeten the deal, only to possibly find that six months down the line the only difference is you're half a mil lighter? I'm not passing judgement, just outlining the kind of choices that need to be made by Golovkin - in fact the same choices that need to be made by any fighter. Maybe they should take a few more risks with it, certainly I'd like to see Golovkin in a testing fight (though Degale, Jack or Zurdo would be more to my preference), but as I'm fond of saying, it ain't me that's gotta put Golovkin's kid through college. Easy to second guess when it ain't your money. The same goes for anyone criticising other fighters for how they choose to conduct their careers.
      I agree with you,its K2 money and they will make Decision,i guess BJS is out of a picuture for them to atleat to March so they can spend a little now,if BJS will fight in November he will want time to prepare.Jacobs is out now so why not Lara?like who else?Heiland is cheap so knowing K2 they will go for this(sorry couldnt help my self)

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        #33
        Originally posted by Canelo and GGG View Post
        I agree with you,its K2 money and they will make Decision,i guess BJS is out of a picuture for them to atleat to March so they can spend a little now,if BJS will fight in November he will want time to prepare.Jacobs is out now so why not Lara?like who else?Heiland is cheap so knowing K2 they will go for this(sorry couldnt help my self)
        Maybe they will. Tricky one with BJ possibly becoming available so late in the financial year. But yeah, certainly my preference would be Lara if Jacobs falls through - possibly they could do the kind of same deal switch that happened with Eubank and Brook - or at least offer it to Lara (in no world is Erislandy worth more than Jacobs though). But they may prefer to save them $s for a possible unification with Saunders.

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          #34
          Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
          How much does Lara generate?
          How much does Lara want?

          "Lara commands a lot of money" his manager.

          Lara got 1 million for canelo. Why does he want more now?
          I don't know. Nor do I care. My mind isn't looking for excuses or trying to resolve business factors that we as boxing fans know almost nothing about.

          As I said, I would love to see the fight and I think it benefits Golovkin a lot. We don't know 1% of what goes on in their negotiations so no fan is going to lure me down that road. That would be like children debating what makes a successful marriage. They don't know.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
            Maybe they will. Tricky one with BJ possibly becoming available so late in the financial year. But yeah, certainly my preference would be Lara if Jacobs falls through - possibly they could do the kind of same deal switch that happened with Eubank and Brook - or at least offer it to Lara (in no world is Erislandy worth more than Jacobs though). But they may prefer to save them $s for a possible unification with Saunders.
            I forgot about one thing,K2 need to prepare on scenario where GBP will try to take BJS from them,its make it all more complicated.

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              #36
              If Jacobs or GGG turndown this fight is Alfonso Blanco (WBA Interim) vs Jacobs or GGG

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                #37
                No way. Lara only runs his mouth when GGG has an opponent lined up. Lara hasn't even fought a 160 pounder before, and if he were serious about a fight with the middleweight king, he'd make the move.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Canelo and GGG View Post
                  I forgot about one thing,K2 need to prepare on scenario where GBP will try to take BJS from them,its make it all more complicated.
                  Absolutely. I've been saying right from the start that GBP should be gunning for Saunders, far less risk - Saunders ain't Knocking out Canelo and even a close fight (BJS is a good boxer despite his BS) would undoubtedly go Canelos way. And of course Saunders' strap would make any prospective Golovkin clash that much bigger and put Canelo in an even stronger bargaining position. Hard to see why Saunders would prefer to fight Golovkin than Canelo, despite what he's been saying. Somehow Billie Joe ain't coming across to me as a guy that's just in it for the glory ... none of them do actually, not that I fault em, but then I'm just an old cynic.

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                    #39
                    Loeffler contacted Haymom/DiBella and asked about possible match-ups between their fighters and GGG. Lara's manager responded with a list of reasons why the fight won't happen.

                    He hasn't posted any twitter challenges to Golovkin since then.
                    Last edited by kafkod; 10-15-2016, 07:08 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      I don't know. Nor do I care. My mind isn't looking for excuses or trying to resolve business factors that we as boxing fans know almost nothing about.

                      As I said, I would love to see the fight and I think it benefits Golovkin a lot. We don't know 1% of what goes on in their negotiations so no fan is going to lure me down that road. That would be like children debating what makes a successful marriage. They don't know.
                      If you don't know, you shouldn't be saying:

                      "Too bad ggg's entire team denies the existence of Lara."

                      No one ever payed Lara more than 1 million, not even Canelo. If Lara wants the fight, then take it for 1 million or less.

                      In boxing you get paid as much as you generate, and if you want much more, it means you don't want the fight.

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