there wont be another gennady golovkin...

[therealpugilist]

your lack of comprehension skills is astounding on top of your non-existent reasoning skills. is it any wonder black america is in shambles.


anyway back to facts, judah was past prime. period. 2-3 after he beat mathysse. those facts mean he's not on the same level as GGG. period.


did u kno devon just lost to journeymen amir khan and some cab driver while in his prime?


just LMAO

^^^this idiot is calling world champions and former world champions with 5 OR LESS losses journeymen

DEVON was undefeated or only had one loss when he fought Matthyssee

Judah won the IBF 140 title around the time he beat Lucas

im done bro....you don't know **** about boxing

if you fight the level of opposition they did early on, you're gonna take losses.....they weren't protected and hyped up like ggg...THEY TOOK RISKS

[Kigali]

^^^this idiot is calling world champions and former world champions with 5 OR LESS losses journeymen

im done bro....you don't know **** about boxing

if you fight the level of opposition they did early on, you're gonna take losses.....they weren't protected and hyped up like ggg...THEY TOOK RISKS

GGG fans aren't too bright.....

[HeadShots]

...but they fought in competitive divisions....and are younger.

top 10 contenders in a dead weight class means nada...

Wade was top 10...

here is the million dollar question

what makes those guys competitive? it's because they are close in skills right? one can beat the other and put up competitive fights.


GGG has no peer. that is a testament to this greatness. Not against.


GGG is older and still head and shoulders above the rest in their weight class. another testament to his skills as he has already physically declined.

[therealpugilist]

...but they fought in competitive divisions....and are younger.

top 10 contenders in a dead weight class means nada...

Wade was top 10...

hell murray and Stevens were top ten and never defeated anyone world class or universally ranked

160 is hot garbage......the best just started fighting each other a year ago....Lee, BJS, Quillin, Jacobs....now its time for GGG to clean out the divison and prove himself

[HeadShots]

^^^this idiot is calling world champions and former world champions with 5 OR LESS losses journeymen

DEVON was undefeated or only had one loss when he fought Matthyssee

Judah won the IBF 140 title around the time he beat Lucas

im done bro....you don't know **** about boxing

if you fight the level of opposition they did early on, you're gonna take losses.....they weren't protected and hyped up like ggg...THEY TOOK RISKS

if Devon is not a journeyman and as you put it still in his physical prime as he's still under 30. once again, your words.


then why did he lose to a journeyman in his last outing?



that is pure logic.

[Madison Boxing]

...but they fought in competitive divisions....and are younger.

top 10 contenders in a dead weight class means nada...

Wade was top 10...

middleweights a better division than its given credit for

[therealpugilist]

here is the million dollar question

what makes those guys competitive? it's because they are close in skills right? one can beat the other and put up competitive fights.


GGG has no peer. that is a testament to this greatness. Not against.


GGG is older and still head and shoulders above the rest in their weight class. another testament to his skills as he has already physically declined.

with you logic im sure you think GGG's opposition sucks

he has fought nothing but journeyman...he has fought only 4 former champions in his career...one was a welterweight.......ouma was shot to all hell.....geale was recently beat by barker and cotto right after....Lemieux has 1 win over a top ten middleweight.....period


so is what does that say about who he fights? he hasn't beaten any long reigning champions or hall famers for that matter

[HeadShots]

with you logic im sure you think GGG's opposition sucks

he has fought nothing but journeyman...he has fought only 4 former champions in his career...one was a welterweight.......ouma was shot to all hell.....geale was recently beat by barker and cotto right after....Lemieux has 1 win over a top ten middleweight.....period


so is what does that say about who he fights? he hasn't beaten any long reigning champions or hall famers for that matter

Nope, my logic is this.

Cotto straight up ducked him. paid step aside money to duck.

Canelo straight up ducked him. straight up gave up belt than to fight.

Martinez straight up ducked him. on whether Martinez will fight GGG. "No he's an animal" -Lou Dibella

Barker former champion ducked him according to Hearn. The trainer straight up declined the fight all GGG wanted was some seats.

We all know Sturm ducked him for years.


These are all the guys in his weight class.

In some ways, GGG is a product of being too great. World champions and future HOFers grow vaginas when he's their mandatory. these are facts of history.



Now onto his competition, when GGG holds the belts then nobody can become champion. That is logic. How can anybody else become champion if he has most of the belts?

[sunny31]

everyone hating on him now, needs to realise hes not going to be around forever. Once in a generation we get a fighter like this and you spend your time making pathetic remarks, calling him g string, triple hype, gaylovekin, mr 97k etc. How can you call yourself fans of the sport yet you hate this guy? Its like a tennis fan saying djokovic is overrated, a golf fan saying tiger woods was never that great.

He is what the sports been crying out for, a top level talent, who is humble, a role model and entertains the fans.
Im struggling to think of any fighter recently, with the skill set to outbox anyone but who deliberately exchanges punches and takes shots he doesnt need to because he wants the fans to get their moneys worth. The guy even fought with the flu once because he didnt want to let fans down. GGG is always looking to land big punches and deliver a dramatic ending, theres no such thing as a safety first UD.

You should be careful what you wish for, cause sooner or later this guys going to retire and you might get a boring guy as the face of the sport, and you are going to be wishing that golovkin was still around delivering excitement

He is totally and utterly good for the sport, and this does get missed along the way with a lot of fans. But there are also fans like you who fail to recognise his flaws and a lot of us who are fans of the sport and not just GGG are forced to listen to lots of BS.

The thing with GGG is that he is currently tearing through good fighters, but they aren't elite, so he is very much dividing opinion, and the jump in competition is long overdue (whether that is his fault or not is irrelevant). Kell Brook is elite, but was too small, but even in that short time frame, to an educated eye, there were lots of holes and lots of vulnerabilities which surfaced. In my humble opinion he is going to get beaten sooner rather than later, and when he does there will be a little bit of satisfaction there because of all the outlandish statements and claims from fans like you, who are singular and all about one fighter.

It is ok to have favourite fighters, there is nothing wrong with it, I have mine, but it is a problem to be deluded. Educate yourselves more, look at fighters weaknesses and compare them to opposition strengths, he may be currently p4p top 5 but he isn't someone who will stay there long, he doesn't have the style or skill to stay there long term, he is not unbeatable, far from it.

I honestly think Canelo will beat him wide, Im not saying it will be easy, but it will be wide unless GGG lands a silly shot which I don't expect him too because Canelo doesn't get hit with silly punches, he is not difficult to hit altogether, but he is difficult to hit with punches that matter.

In my opinion GGG is a limited fighter who will blow out everything up to B-level fighter, and maybe even some B+/A- fighters, but when he comes up against a solid A-level fighter you are going to see what I already see.

It looks like Jacobs next, if he wins that I will start to believe in him more and give him some props for beating a good offensive champion. If he beats Billy Joe Saunders he gets more credit and starts to look like he is building a respectable resume. If he beats Canelo after that, than you can say he has cleaned out his division and that would be a marquee win against a top elite champion. To put things into perspective that would only start to get his resume alongside someone like Ward who beat all his fellow champions, and people still **** on Ward all the time. Its like people forget what Ward did - I find it baffling, you might not be happy with his last few years, but you can't take a man's achievements away. All top fighters get the same treatment it seems, they are only as good as their last win, and last performance. I would not put myself into this category, but many boxing fans are fickle. They like to build fighters up to tear them down, and on that part I agree with you, and I don't like it.

I guess the moral of the story is that you will never make everyone happy.

[HeadShots]

the elite in his weight class ducked him. these are all factual events of documented in history.



Cotto straight up ducked him. paid step aside money to duck.

Canelo straight up ducked him. straight up gave up belt than to fight.

Martinez straight up ducked him. on whether Martinez will fight GGG. "No he's an animal" -Lou Dibella

Barker former champion ducked him according to Hearn. The trainer straight up declined the fight all GGG wanted was some seats.

We all know Sturm ducked him for years.















you can't discredit GGG for not having those wins. You have to almost assume those fighters forfeited in defeat. They just didn't want to fight him even thought he was their mandatories.