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    #61
    Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
    I respectfully disagree. I don't think GGG is doing anything with a prime Hopkins at middleweight, too big, too good. Stylistically Hopkins is murder for GGG, I think some of you forget how good Hopkins was. No to mention he was a pretty destructive puncher at middleweight, GGG's style would totally work against him against a defensive master like Hopkins, he is the total package at 160 and once established the only thing he struggled with was world class speed coupled with good ability.

    GGG holds no advantages apart from punch power and is a pretty small middleweight overall, Hopkins was a monster at 160, he had the speed and reflexes of a middleweight in the frame of a super middleweight or light heavyweight, he was a freak of nature to be honest. I could definitely see GGG getting stopped in the latter part of the fight after taking a sustained beating.

    GGG is one of the best middleweights of the last 20 years, but Hopkins belongs with the top 5 middleweights of all time, there is a difference. I see this already but in time - you will retract too.
    The only guys B-hop beat at MW who were in GGG's class are jones (lost) and Taylor (list twice).

    Tito and De La Hoya were good, but they were never real MW. Not that I don't give b-hop credit, but GGG at MW is way more dangerous than either of those two at MW.

    He did beat Pavlik, but at 170. At extra 10 pounds makes a differences. Not taking anything away from him, but it's not clear a prime b-hop beats a prime GGG at 160.

    B-hops best wins for me were all above 160. I honk it's because he was always too big for MW, and cutting drained him. When he moved up he became a better fighter I think.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
      Why would I retract? I havent forgotten anything about Hopkins. I watched him live from his first fight with Roy all the way to present day. Nothing that Ive seen from either fighter leads me to believe this fight ends any other way than a decision and probably but not certainly for Hopkins. I mean we arent talking about Robert Allen or William Joppy or Howard Eastman here. Golovkin is the real deal and would give Hop all he wanted.
      I give GGG the edge at 160.

      As of now above 160 I give it to b-hop, because we know what he was able to do.

      However, GGG still has time to prive he can win above 160.

      I think if GGG beats Ward or Kov at 175, he'll surpass b-hop, but only if he does.

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        #63
        By hugging, elbows, and any foul trick he could sneak in. He will also complain the the ref and cry foul often too. I believe GGG would hurt a lighter weight drained Hopkins even more than Kovalev did at Light Heavy. I believe he would do better than Calzaghe did or Jermaine Taylor did twice. If Hopkins did beat GGG the fight would probably be just like the Roy Jones rematch. By the way did anyone enjoy those 5 fights I mentioned. Some were ok I guess.

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          #64
          If he was 8 years younger, I'd say he'd wash GGG.. he's too old now

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            #65
            If he was, 15 years ago, in his prime. All those hypothetical situations are cool and shh but they aren't realistic. You can only assume an outcome in a hypothetical setting, right now Hopkins gets abused and we should all be ashamed for even entertaining the thought and the mere suggestion of this. I like a KO as much as the next man but again I ain't tuning in to watch a snuff film. Bernard is a legend (cannot be disputed) and needs to stop talking about fighting, you are 52 mofo enjoy your money and your HOF guaranteed career.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
              Why would I retract? I havent forgotten anything about Hopkins. I watched him live from his first fight with Roy all the way to present day. Nothing that Ive seen from either fighter leads me to believe this fight ends any other way than a decision and probably but not certainly for Hopkins. I mean we arent talking about Robert Allen or William Joppy or Howard Eastman here. Golovkin is the real deal and would give Hop all he wanted.
              The real deal you say? In his entire run at middleweight he has beaten two world champions, Geale and Lemieux. I would say the jury's still very much out on him, he hasn't fought at a high enough level for a definitive breakdown in this match up either way, but going by what I have seen so far I have to disagree. GGG is better than those guys you mentioned, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get wiped out. I am sorry I don't see him competitive at all, or what you could call competitive at that kind of level. He might win an early round or two on activity whilst Hopkins is having a look at him, but that is it. Golovkin has too limited a tool box to compete with someone like B-hop. Like I said I think all will be revealed in time about Golovkin's level, we just have to wait and watch.

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                #67
                By keeping distance, straight punches and head movement into the clinch, possibly some dirty boxing In the clinch, then push off whilst throwing a few on your way back out of reach, then repeat, Hopkins was boring IMO, he's a champ but I found his style boring and predicable

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                  #68
                  He's too old now, but best believe it would've been an embarrassing beatdown a few years ago.

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                    #69
                    He's too old and Golovkin is too small GTFO

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hot Shyt View Post
                      If he was 8 years younger, I'd say he'd wash GGG.. he's too old now
                      No way he blows GGG out. Anyone who says that is being hyperbolic.

                      Not even B-hop believes he'd wash GGG. No one in history is going walk through GGG at MW. He'd lose to some greats, at least if I judged his career now. But no one will make it easy. GGG is too good.

                      Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                      The real deal you say? In his entire run at middleweight he has beaten two world champions, Geale and Lemieux. I would say the jury's still very much out on him, he hasn't fought at a high enough level for a definitive breakdown in this match up either way, but going by what I have seen so far I have to disagree. GGG is better than those guys you mentioned, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get wiped out. I am sorry I don't see him competitive at all, or what you could call competitive at that kind of level. He might win an early round or two on activity whilst Hopkins is having a look at him, but that is it. Golovkin has too limited a tool box to compete with someone like B-hop. Like I said I think all will be revealed in time about Golovkin's level, we just have to wait and watch.
                      Tevhcally Geale wasn't a world champ, and that isn't that only former world champ he's beat. He has more sir, but the amount of world champs that ducked him, well yea.

                      And up if you don't think a GGG would be competitive at MW with b-hop, I don't know what to tell you. B-hop was mid 30's before he got his first big win in Tito, and yes, Tito was smaller than Brook. So if that counts for b-hop, then I'm counting Brook.

                      But more importantly, every time at MW B-hop stepped up to a true world champ MW, he got beat. Jones, Taylor best him twice. Not saying automatically GGG wins, but I think he does.

                      B-hop at 160 wasn't as good as he was at 175. He was too big to be taking off so much weight. I think it's why he did more at 175.

                      B-hop beat a lot if qualify MW, as GGG has. But b-hop didn't have a Canelo. He had a de la Hoya and a Tito, both much smaller than him. De la Hoya nor Tito came in heavier than b-hop at MW. Not like Brook did at 160.

                      My point us, b-hop v GGG is a good match. I could see it going either way, but I give it to GGG.
                      Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 09-16-2016, 11:39 PM.

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