If Kell Brooks orbital bone never got broke, would have he had continued success?

[ruedboy]

Most def!!! Also if Golovkin stopped those body punches and head shots, kept his hands at his sides and stuck his chin out, Brook had a very good chance of winning the fight. LOL

[muslimer12]

Who broke Brooks orbital bone tho?

[daggum]

His body was taking too much damage for his success. GGG was beating him down like Darth Vader beat down Luke in Empire Strikes Back. Bottom line, the challenger wasn't ready to defeat the master on that day.

luke waited until vader got old in order to beat him. he used the Floyd strategy.

[!! Shawn]

Yes, this is pretty much how I see it, although I don't think they pulled him out early. Brook might never be the same after this fight. If it went one more round his career would be over.

Gennady didn't look quite his usual self before, during and after the fight.

Not sure about the rematch. I can't see Brook doing anything more than what he already did, and it wasn't even close enough to beat one of the poorest performances by Gennady.

The fight I would love to see is GGG-DeGale. That is a real 50:50 fight IMO.

I said rematch, because one of the uncertainties is if GGG had a poor performance because of what Brook was able to do, or prevent GGG from doing, or because GGG just had an off night.

It looked to me GGG was having difficulty with the unusual way Brook counters.

Not many fights roll a left hook then throw a long right hand afterwards, especially when GGG has already spun out after throwing the punch. That seemed to make GGG uncomfortable with his ability to properly gauge the range where he was safe, which is one thing he is usually very good at.

I suspect GGG decided to make it an ugly fight because of things like that.
Usually GGG controls the distance. It looked like kell was in control of the distance.

Id like to see the fight again. It was clearly affected by the broken orbital bone. For example, he started to get hit with more body punches when he was focusing more on not getting hit in his eye. That obviously showed up in him losing steam quickly. I think Brooke would do better the second time around, although I still favor GGG.

[Box-Office]

LOL, who broke his orbital bone? That's like asking: Would Khan have success had Canelo not KOed him?

[creekrat77]

No. By round 5 his legs were shot. He was just ****ing getting wailed on the ropes. Just took to much damage to the body in my opinion.

[!! Shawn]

I disagree, From watching it last night I saw a fighter in between the 4/5 who didn't want to continue because he knew he couldn't win. His team just did him the favour

Of course he's going to act like he wanted to continue but I don't think he did

I disagree, I see a fighter who from the 4th-5th round was starting to succumb to the sustained body attack of GGG as he tried to protect his eye and gave up on defending the body.

It doesn't mean he wanted to quit, Its just the reality of the situation.

Also I don't believe his orbital was broken in the 2nd round, I think it was broken around 2:20 mark in round 3. After getting caught with a jab then a left hook, brook started blinking and tapped his eye for the first time like it was hurt.

[Simurgh]

I said rematch, because one of the uncertainties is if GGG had a poor performance because of what Brook was able to do, or prevent GGG from doing, or because GGG just had an off night.

It looked to me GGG was having difficulty with the unusual way Brook counters.

Not many fights roll a left hook then throw a long right hand afterwards, especially when GGG has already spun out after throwing the punch. That seemed to make GGG uncomfortable with his ability to properly gauge the range where he was safe, which is one thing he is usually very good at.

I suspect GGG decided to make it an ugly fight because of things like that.
Usually GGG controls the distance. It looked like kell was in control of the distance.

Id like to see the fight again. It was clearly affected by the broken orbital bone. For example, he started to get hit with more body punches when he was focusing more on not getting hit in his eye. That obviously showed up in him losing steam quickly. I think Brooke would do better the second time around, although I still favor GGG.

I think Gennady pretty much assessed Brook's power as the one that can't seriously hurt him. For Brook it was very unsustainable to keep fighting like he was. You can literally see how his energy is going down and fast.

IMO the plan from the beginning was not to respect Brook's power and that's why Gennady was much more aggressive from the first round than he usually is. And especially after he felt it he figured out he can literally take 2-3 punches while landing a single punch that would do much more damage. And he was right.

Brook was badly hurt and barely moved in 5th. He was minutes from being stopped injury or no injury.

[!! Shawn]

I think Gennady pretty much assessed Brook's power as the one that can't seriously hurt him. For Brook it was very unsustainable to keep fighting like he was. You can literally see how his energy is going down and fast.

IMO the plan from the beginning was not to respect Brook's power and that's why Gennady was much more aggressive from the first round than he usually is. And especially after he felt it he figured out he can literally take 2-3 punches while landing a single punch that would do much more damage. And he was right.

Brook was badly hurt and barely moved in 5th. He was minutes from being stopped injury or no injury.

I disagree that GGG decided that Brook couldn't hurt him, because we saw Brook seriously get his attention. Brook clearly hit hard enough, that if he caught you with a perfectly timed shot, he could put you down. And there were a lot of punches that were almost perfectly timed by Brook.

Also most of GGG's punches weren't that damaging, as Hopkins said, he looked like he was pushing his punches and they didn't have any snap on them.

Brooks punches did have snap on them right up to the end. He may not have had the power to make GGG super cautious like Lemieux, but he had enough power to break you down over the course of 12 rounds, especially if he was outlanding GGG all night like he was.

Either way, it was a much more competitive fight than people expected. Brook looked strong and fast at 160, I think 154 will be perfect for him.

Hopefully now people will fight GGG.

[Derranged]

He would've continued to get beaten up for however many more rounds his corner allowed.