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Originally posted by bigdramashow View Postyeah they marketed it well and the fight delivered, so whats your point? You act like the fight surpassed all expectations, no it didnt, it was a rematch of a really good first fight however short it was. Why would anyone be complaining about a rematch of a fight like that? Just think you want to be seen as one of these old school 'purists' who appreciate the finer side of the sport, sneering at those who enjoy fights that are action packed and those who have the audacity to consider one sided 12 round fights with someone like lara and ward as boring. Theres many many boxers i enjoy watching, and theres a minority that i dont. Im not compelled to find every single fighter interesting.
Stop derailing and stay on topic. You complained that there are no tough matchups in boxing like McGregor vs Diaz. I explained to you, we've been getting these types of matchups in terms of rankings all the time. The difference is the UFC promotes and builds up their fights better and the fans are just flat out better.
Two completely different sports, if you wznt boxing to be more like UFC then why even watch boxing anymore? Just enjoy UFC. I have no problem enjoying both but I understand those that don't.
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Boxing is an art. I look st UFC as thugs, although id like to see a few guys from boxing try it, preferably Stevenson, Broner, Pascal and Fury to name a few. I would take great satisfaction watching those guys being beaten half to death with their own limbs
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Originally posted by -PBP- View PostOh STFU..."you're a purist. You're love slickness....waaahhhhh". You dislike boring fighters but use the same boring comebacks that meathead boxing fans have been using since the Arturo Gatti days. You're comebacks are more one dimensional than Erislandy Lara's offensive game. You have more in common with the fighters you hate than you think.
Stop derailing and stay on topic. You complained that there are no tough matchups in boxing like McGregor vs Diaz. I explained to you, we've been getting these types of matchups in terms of rankings all the time. The difference is the UFC promotes and builds up their fights better and the fans are just flat out better.
Two completely different sports, if you wznt boxing to be more like UFC then why even watch boxing anymore? Just enjoy UFC. I have no problem enjoying both but I understand those that don't.
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Originally posted by bigdramashow View PostSorry but you are absolutely deluded if you think we get match ups and fights like that 'all the time', not at the top level of the sport we dont. I wish boxing would take lessons from UFC (less emphasis on undefeated records, less 'marinating' fights, more competitive match ups, solid undercards) that certainly doesnt mean im not a boxing fan like you suggested earlier.
The UFC champion/contender model is preferable and it's a much better organized and the best are forced to fight the best. No kidding captain obvious.
The point here is, THIS fight, McGregor vs Diaz, was not an example of that. THIS fight came about because the champion was injured and Diaz filled in on short notice. He was a mid level contender and a replacement opponent. He pulled what was perceived to be a major upset, which set the stage for a lucrative rematch.
If Manny Pacquiao fought a mid level contender on short notice, the fight would be destroyed by boxing fans. They wouldn't even think about staging it on ppv.
There's a clear double standard.
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Originally posted by -PBP- View PostThat's a totally different topic. We're talking about McGregorvs Diaz which is nothing more than a mid level contender vs a superstar. You're delusional kid.
The UFC champion/contender model is preferable and it's a much better organized and the best are forced to fight the best. No kidding captain obvious.
The point here is, THIS fight, McGregor vs Diaz, was not an example of that. THIS fight came about because the champion was injured and Diaz filled in on short notice. He was a mid level contender and a replacement opponent. He pulled what was perceived to be a major upset, which set the stage for a lucrative rematch.
If Manny Pacquiao fought a mid level contender on short notice, the fight would be destroyed by boxing fans. They wouldn't even think about staging it on ppv.
There's a clear double standard.
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Originally posted by bigdramashow View Postthink youre doing him an injustice saying hes a mid level opponent. Quite a few people who knew mma tipped diaz to win if i remember. Hes a tough stand in opponent as he proved. Certainly tougher than someone like arreola, who wilder drafted in when his opponent pulled out, cause heaven forbid he fight someone with a pulse on short notice, way too much risk and got to protect that 0!
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Originally posted by bigdramashow View Postthink youre doing him an injustice saying hes a mid level opponent. Quite a few people who knew mma tipped diaz to win if i remember. Hes a tough stand in opponent as he proved. Certainly tougher than someone like arreola, who wilder drafted in when his opponent pulled out, cause heaven forbid he fight someone with a pulse on short notice, way too much risk and got to protect that 0!
1. You hype up Nate Diaz as more than a mid level contender. When he was ranked..what? 8? And after he win the first fight, moved up to 4. If 4-8 isn't mid level contender what is? PBP stated facts, you try to sugarcoat to make your point.
2. You bring up Wilder vs Arreola. An obscure fight watched by 800,000 people in Alabama. How can this be compared to this UFC megafight in Vegas with the biggest star in the sport? When you make comparisons, be consistent please.
Let's do a real, accurate comparison. Boxing's biggest star over the past few years...is Mayweather...the numbers support that.
Let's say Mayweather fought the Nate Diaz equivalent of boxing. Who would that be? Tough, well respected, middle ranked contenders.
Maidana?
Guerrero?
I think that's generous. I could say K9 Bundrage or Carlos Molina which I think is more accurate. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Surely isn't a Cotto, Canelo or Pacquiao.
Mayweather vs. Maidana and Guerrero were heavily criticized by boxing fans.
It's a clear double standard.
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