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    #141
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Genuine big named fighters? Well using that logic, I wonder why GGG hasn't moved down to 155.
    I dunno probably because the Canelo fight was a mandatory and Dela Hoya and Canelo are teasing of this GGG fight happening at 160, maybe that's why?
    Also probably because a lot of people want to see Canelo fight GGG, did the attention of a GGG Vs. Ward fight draw this much attention?
    Lol, this is too easy.

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      #142
      Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
      I dunno probably because the Canelo fight was a mandatory and Dela Hoya and Canelo are teasing of this GGG fight happening at 160, maybe that's why?
      Also probably because a lot of people want to see Canelo fight GGG, did the attention of a GGG Vs. Ward fight draw this much attention?
      Lol, this is too easy.
      Many title bouts have involved catchweights. The terms they laid out included a catchweight of 155lbs. Per your logic, GGG should have moved down.

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        #143
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Many title bouts have involved catchweights. The terms they laid out included a catchweight of 155lbs. Per your logic, GGG should have moved down.
        Pers my logic doesn't take into consideration of a mandatory fight, there is no rules to say that a mandatory fight obligates a fighter to meet halfway or just a pound in the limit.
        Further more why should he go to 155lbs when Oscar and Canelo said weight wouldn't be an issue that and they want to fight at 160 by the end of the year lol.

        These situations aren't comparable and Ward doesn't have a leg to stand on after all he moved away from 168 making this fight dead in the water that and since his return he didn't even fight once at 168lbs lol.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
          Pers my logic doesn't take into consideration of a mandatory fight, there is no rules to say that a mandatory fight obligates a fighter to meet halfway or just a pound in the limit.
          Further more why should he go to 155lbs when Oscar and Canelo said weight wouldn't be an issue that and they want to fight at 160 by the end of the year lol.

          These situations aren't comparable and Ward doesn't have a leg to stand on after all he moved away from 168 making this fight dead in the water that and since his return he didn't even fight once at 168lbs lol.
          No, it doesn't obligate you to fight at a catchweight. But as you say, if you want the big fight, the genuine big name fighter gets to set those terms. So basically, Golovkin was interested in the fight at only one weight, just like Ward. Not different at all, even if we want to pretend it is by using a rule book from a sanctioning body that allowed both Cotto and Canelo to fight for their titles at a catchweight.

          Anyway, doesn't matter now. Ward has moved up and will take on an A-class opponent. Canelo continues to be a superstar. And GGG still doesn't know what those two things are like.

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            #145
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            No, it doesn't obligate you to fight at a catchweight. But as you say, if you want the big fight, the genuine big name fighter gets to set those terms. So basically, Golovkin was interested in the fight at only one weight, just like Ward. Not different at all, even if we want to pretend it is by using a rule book from a sanctioning body that allowed both Cotto and Canelo to fight for their titles at a catchweight.

            Anyway, doesn't matter now. Ward has moved up and will take on an A-class opponent. Canelo continues to be a superstar. And GGG still doesn't know what those two things are like.
            daaaaayuuuum.....ether

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              #146
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              No, it doesn't obligate you to fight at a catchweight. But as you say, if you want the big fight, the genuine big name fighter gets to set those terms. So basically, Golovkin was interested in the fight at only one weight, just like Ward. Not different at all, even if we want to pretend it is by using a rule book from a sanctioning body that allowed both Cotto and Canelo to fight for their titles at a catchweight.

              Anyway, doesn't matter now. Ward has moved up and will take on an A-class opponent. Canelo continues to be a superstar. And GGG still doesn't know what those two things are like.
              Too bad fighting a weaker level of opposition to the one you supposedly originally wanted to fight won't generate anywhere near the same public attention, in fact, I'm more than confident that Brook Vs GGG will outsell Ward Vs. Kovalev that's assuming this Ward fight even happens at all.

              So tell me again how generating the most attention as of late in boxing, getting top promotional/sponsor deals and having having all of the top pros talking about you does not equal to being at a "superstar" level?
              Lol, Ward fans just make it too easy always ending up with egg all over your face.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
                Too bad fighting a weaker level of opposition to the one you supposedly originally wanted to fight won't generate anywhere near the same public attention, in fact, I'm more than confident that Brook Vs GGG will outsell Ward Vs. Kovalev that's assuming this Ward fight even happens at all.

                So tell me again how generating the most attention as of late in boxing, getting top promotional/sponsor deals and having having all of the top pros talking about you does not equal to being at a "superstar" level?
                Lol, Ward fans just make it too easy always ending up with egg all over your face.
                you do realize how much a fight sells has nothing to do with how much talent is in the ring.

                GGG vs Brook is a joke and Kov vs Ward is literally the best match up of the year.

                GGG will be fighting no names, people even you have to google, or guys from lower weights until he gets in there with Canelo....its already being. played out. Get used to the mismatches until they sign to fight next year

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
                  Too bad fighting a weaker level of opposition to the one you supposedly originally wanted to fight won't generate anywhere near the same public attention, in fact, I'm more than confident that Brook Vs GGG will outsell Ward Vs. Kovalev that's assuming this Ward fight even happens at all.

                  So tell me again how generating the most attention as of late in boxing, getting top promotional/sponsor deals and having having all of the top pros talking about you does not equal to being at a "superstar" level?
                  Lol, Ward fans just make it too easy always ending up with egg all over your face.
                  Maybe. Don't care. Ward moved up and is fighting an A class opponent. As a boxing fan, I'm excited.

                  Your argument is all over the place and I understand. You say GGG is not obligated to fight Ward on Ward's terms because GGG is the bigger star. I understand. Believe me, I do.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    you do realize how much a fight sells has nothing to do with how much talent is in the ring.

                    GGG vs Brook is a joke and Kov vs Ward is literally the best match up of the year.

                    GGG will be fighting no names, people even you have to google, or guys from lower weights until he gets in there with Canelo....its already being. played out. Get used to the mismatches until they sign to fight next year
                    So having everyone talk about you and having big paydays suddenly doesn't matter anymore that's funny I seem to remember you a comment ago highlighting something which would go against what you're saying right now.

                    So which is it, fighting "A-level" guys is more important or generating the most attention?
                    "Ether" hmm... where?
                    As things stand Ward ran up to 175lbs to avoid the more talented fighter that and since his return he never once fought at 168lbs the only person to blame for it not happening is Ward.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Maybe. Don't care. Ward moved up and is fighting an A class opponent. As a boxing fan, I'm excited.

                      Your argument is all over the place and I understand. You say GGG is not obligated to fight Ward on Ward's terms because GGG is the bigger star. I understand. Believe me, I do.
                      No, the point is Ward could have waited and fought the guys at 168 the good guys of that division but instead, he moved up to 175 called out SMW's to move up to fight him and fought nobodies you claim this Kovalev fight is everything yet who has Kovalev beat by your standard his resume is weak too or perhaps it's just weak because he isn't American.
                      Funny isn't it, soon as the Yanks are dominating the division is in a great state but when it's not a Yank the division suck and get no attention prime example the Cruiserweight division lol

                      As a boxing fan I'm excited to see entertaining fights not clinch fests.

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