The Lies Being Told By Eddie Hearn and Tom Loeffler

[j0zef]

And your proof of this wild ass theory is...... nothing.

Eubank Sr is not denying anything, and always had a rep for being a pain in the ass, even since his fighting days.

Until you come up with any factual info to backup the claims, hard pass on this.

[HeroBando]

Exactly, it was a business decision. GGG is now on my p4p business decision list

Welcome to pro boxing. It's a sport where nobody passes on 2x their career high and major exposure with nothing else in sight, just cause the fight is too easy.

[R_Walken]

Saunders is trying to get a Canelo fight . He'll be on his undercard and the rumors are they will fight after. Saunders turned down both Golovkin and Jacobs. My point wasn't even that he ducked, it was put yourself in the perspective of Golovkin/k2- they wasted a lot of time with Canelo who reneged on the deal, they went after Saunders who rejected them, Jacobs wants 1.5 years and now Eubank. At some point they have to sign to fight someone.




I don't think he's the best promoter either but to suggest this was some elaborate smoke screen is crazy talk.



I've said from the start Brook is a bad opponent for Golovkin. I've said repeatedly it's a mismatch and it's pointless.

His competition went down because he can't fight the top guys at middleweight. Obviously he had to fight his mandatory in Wade due to Canelo demanding an extension and Saunders turned down a fight then as well. Those were the only two unification fights out there. Now we're in a similar situation - Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs and Eubank , all four can't/won't sign. I think k2 liked the deal Hearn had drawn up for Eubank, being that it's in the UK on UK PPV, good money etc, they offered k2 the same deal but with Brook as an alternative and they took it. I don't think it's the fight Golovkin or k2 wanted but they liked the deal.

YeH I get the jist of what your saying,

I'm just more of a bitter GGG fan that wants Loeffler to actually make some decent fights not drag up WW and continue wth these dog sh.it opponets .

I don't blame Saunders for wanting the Canelo fight, more $ , less risk better chance of winning. As far as Canelo wasting there time. Abel said from the get go they didn't except the Canelo fight well K2 should have a decent back up then

Like Fine Eubank fell through, well Degeales in that Matchroom stable why not suggest that instead of taking Brook has to be equally if not more lucrative for everyone involved.

There's names out there that have wanted the fight, Laras still has his hand up, Ward wanted it but it's always these lame excuses from K2 when it's announced its another Mis match.

Obviously Eubank didn't know his value, unless he was out to sabotage the fight. 4m is a ton of money for anyone at MW, never mind a guy that just made 70k on an undercard.

They offered Saunders a UK fight, his promoter couldn't come up with the money. Nobody cares about BJ even back home. The Lemieux Ppv barely paid for itself, should 3 belt champ fight for free to accommodate Saunders? I don't see Jacobs making 1.5m anytime soon with the dearth of names, falling Pbc wages, and terrible numbers he did with Quillin. As I said, I'm sure there was Ppv upside for him, if he thinks he brings much more to the table his final purse would show it.

Let's face it, nobody is much of a risk for Ggg at 160 or below at this point, even include 168. Froch was a bigger risk than any current SMw,a nd he was offered 168 and the hometown advantage.

Again a lot of points I agree with

Yeah wouldn't be suprised if Eubank over estimated their hand, they've been known to be difficult but there had to be better options for them then Brook And I just don't think this was done on a whim like their saying

Agree I don't think GGG has many threats at 160 or below but if that's the case it's be nice to throw in the occasional challenge has Monroe, Lemiuex,Wade or Brook been that, there has to be better options.

Said it before I'll watch I wouldn't pay for it. Not a Brook fan so hope Gennady beats the living sh.it out of him but it's not a great pick IMO and it's just more of the same.

[OnePunch]

Obviously Eubank didn't know his value, unless he was out to sabotage the fight. 4m is a ton of money for anyone at MW, never mind a guy that just made 70k on an undercard.

They offered Saunders a UK fight, his promoter couldn't come up with the money. Nobody cares about BJ even back home. The Lemieux Ppv barely paid for itself, should 3 belt champ fight for free to accommodate Saunders? I don't see Jacobs making 1.5m anytime soon with the dearth of names, falling Pbc wages, and terrible numbers he did with Quillin. As I said, I'm sure there was Ppv upside for him, if he thinks he brings much more to the table his final purse would show it.

Let's face it, nobody is much of a risk for Ggg at 160 or below at this point, even include 168. Froch was a bigger risk than any current SMw,a nd he was offered 168 and the hometown advantage.

Jacobs will be lucky to see $500k for the Mora fight.......

[OnePunch]

YeH I get the jist of what your saying,

I'm just more of a bitter GGG fan that wants Loeffler to actually make some decent fights not drag up WW and continue wth these dog sh.it opponets .

I don't blame Saunders for wanting the Canelo fight, more $ , less risk better chance of winning. As far as Canelo wasting there time. Abel said from the get go they didn't except the Canelo fight well K2 should have a decent back up then

Like Fine Eubank fell through, well Degeales in that Matchroom stable why not suggest that instead of taking Brook has to be equally if not more lucrative for everyone involved.

There's names out there that have wanted the fight, Laras still has his hand up, Ward wanted it but it's always these lame excuses from K2 when it's announced its another Mis match.


Again a lot of points I agree with

Yeah wouldn't be suprised if Eubank over estimated their hand, they've been known to be difficult but there had to be better options for them then Brook And I just don't think this was done on a whim like their saying

Agree I don't think GGG has many threats at 160 or below but if that's the case it's be nice to throw in the occasional challenge has Monroe, Lemiuex,Wade or Brook been that, there has to be better options.

Said it before I'll watch I wouldn't pay for it. Not a Brook fan so hope Gennady beats the living sh.it out of him but it's not a great pick IMO and it's just more of the same.

Degale is fighting Jack, and HBO wont buy Lara. The Ward thing isnt even worth discussing again for the 232,453,455th time......


Everyone complains about opponent selection, but then can never provide a credible name that is actually makeable......

Edit: And im certainly not defending GGG-Brook, its a garbage fight. But that being said, i understand why they are doing it, as the only other option right now is for GGG to sit quietly in the corner until one of the other top middleweights grow a pair......

[R_Walken]

Degale is fighting Jack, and HBO wont buy Lara. The Ward thing isnt even worth discussing again for the 232,453,455th time......


Everyone complains about opponent selection, but then can never provide a credible name that is actually makeable......

Edit: And im certainly not defending GGG-Brook, its a garbage fight. But that being said, i understand why they are doing it, as the only other option right now is for GGG to sit quietly in the corner until one of the other top middleweights grow a pair......

For sure I get what your saying and don't think he should sideline himself

But why not see if Degeales a option, No facts on my part at all and don't even know if he'd take the fight but I'd like to believe Degeale would make more $ with GGG then Jack and he has expressed interest before and he's in the same Matchroom stable.

I know the Ward boats sailed and agree there's no point discussing it's been beat to death enough, I was just making a point, Lara isn't a option cool but there's has to be something better then a WW its just been the same sh.it for years. Every other notable fighter since GGG been at HBo has fought a somewhat risky fight except GGG & Adonis.

At some point people need to look at Loeffler like step your game up. You've done a great job marketing him now put him in with some names.

Again I'm just a bitter GGG fan that want to see K2 give him a challenge

[ИATAS]

YeH I get the jist of what your saying,

I'm just more of a bitter GGG fan that wants Loeffler to actually make some decent fights not drag up WW and continue wth these dog sh.it opponets .

I don't blame Saunders for wanting the Canelo fight, more $ , less risk better chance of winning. As far as Canelo wasting there time. Abel said from the get go they didn't except the Canelo fight well K2 should have a decent back up then

That's Abel though, he has zero to do with negotiations. K2 made a deal with Golden Boy that they would fight after the extension, clearly they thought there was a good chance of it happening or else they wouldn't have agreed to the extension . I think everyone was surprised when Canelo dropped the belt. But yeah, it would be nice to have a back up and that was probably Eubank if not Saunders.

Like Fine Eubank fell through, well Degeales in that Matchroom stable why not suggest that instead of taking Brook has to be equally if not more lucrative for everyone involved.

How do you know they didn't discuss DeGale? He has a fight against Jack in November, I'm sure he came up. We don't know what else k2 tried , all we know is Eubank didn't sign, Hearn offered Brook and they took that. There could have been other opponents they looked at, we don't know any of that information.

[HeroBando]

For sure I get what your saying and don't think he should sideline himself

But why not see if Degeales a option, No facts on my part at all and don't even know if he'd take the fight but I'd like to believe Degeale would make more $ with GGG then Jack and he has expressed interest before and he's in the same Matchroom stable.

I know the Ward boats sailed and agree there's no point discussing it's been beat to death enough, I was just making a point, Lara isn't a option cool but there's has to be something better then a WW its just been the same sh.it for years. Every other notable fighter since GGG been at HBo has fought a somewhat risky fight except GGG & Adonis.

At some point people need to look at Loeffler like step your game up. You've done a great job marketing him now put him in with some names.

Again I'm just a bitter GGG fan that want to see K2 give him a challenge

For whatever reason Degale is not popular at all in Britain, his last 3 fights were in North America including last on undercard. So no way could Hearn extend this huge contract to him, would that even be sky Ppv?

Stevenson has repeatedly priced himself out vs all relevant guys in his division. Ggg just had the 4 most relevant MWs duck him quite brazenly

[ИATAS]

For whatever reason Degale is not popular at all in Britain, his last 3 fights were in North America including last on undercard. So no way could Hearn extend this huge contract to him, would that even be sky Ppv?

Doesn't matter about his popularity it's a good fight and it doesn't necessarily have to be on UK PPV. He's fighting Jack in November. I'm guessing k2 did talk about him since they've expressed interest in DeGale for a while now, he'd be an excellent opponent at 168, if not the best opponent there. He's just not available but he could be after Brook if they still can't get what they want at middleweight. They are now in a position that after Brook, they need a big test, whether that's at middleweight or super middleweight and DeGale would be one of the biggest tests possible.

[LacedUp]

If Brook was the option, why didn't they say so?

Clearly what happened was they made a full offer to Eubank, he didn't respond so they gave the exact offer to Brook and told him those were the terms.

He said yes. Simple