The Lies Being Told By Eddie Hearn and Tom Loeffler

[R_Walken]

Really? He talked all that ****, better not duck me Ggg, got a 4m offer, and his manager dad decided it was a good time to change the way sky Ppv operates

You're missing an obvious thing:. Team Ggg are not paying Brook, it's the other way around. He can't pay 4m for an opponent or even close, it's only possible due to UK ppv. Saunders got the same deal the more exciting fellow champ Lemieux got. Ditto Jacobs, and he doesn't even bring a belt for Ggg. I'm sure there's Ppv upside for both, so if Jacobs brings that much more interest, his final purse will reflect that. Quillin was a total disaster ratings and gate wise, it's only evidence he's not worth that much

There's lots of things your writing that I get, I just don't think this fight was thought of and executed in a day

it seems that everyone knows sr. Is almost impossible to deal with so this had to be expected but tge one thing I will say is that Sr is a former fighter so he knows the in & outs of maximizing $ such as the tix prices and ownig the rights of the fight of course he's going to try and get that

K2 said it was all about the belts, Saunders owns the last one why would he settle for what Lemiuex had when at the time it would have only been GGG 2 nd strap. Saunders overpriced himself but obviously the $ out there especially in the UK. And Jacibs why would he going to accept Quillen $. They had to know that be rejected. Like if your boss wanted you to work 10hrs for whatever money and you did it would you accept it next time if he wanted you to work 16hrs (bigger challenge ) for the same $ but you'd be respected more in Yor company. probably not


It's just enough is enough as far as these over matched opponets for GGG like it's always excuses. Since GGG been in HBo every notable fighters with the exception of Adonus taken a risk somewhat or shown the willingness
Broner - Maidana / Porter
Thurman - Porter
Porter- Thurman / Brook
Canelo - Mayweathers, Lara , Cotto
Ward - Kov
Danny - Matthysse , Peterson
Wilder - Povetkin ( fell through)

And the list goes on and on but GGG hasn't even attempted to risk anything his last 4 fights are a WW, A nobody and never will be in Wade, a questionable champion inLemiux and F.ucking Willie Monroe like is that for real this garbage.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Cause he wasn't happy with the money. It's what happens when the entire main event purse is less than what Eubank was offered. So how many more weeks should Eubank have gotten to back out?

So it takes a month to get the money situation with his own fighter situated? Like onepuch said, he was probably working on a verbal agreement with Brook. Saw the opportunity to make more money with Brook vs. GGG than with GGG vs Eubank and Brook vs. Vargas and he pulled the trigger. Brook was his ***** card and Loeffler had a choice to make. Reject the Brook fight and move the date. Accept the Brook fight because the money is to good to turn down. This was a strictly business decision from both sides. This isn't a good fight and it's not a fight any boxing fan should be encouraging especially when it took away a good unification fight at welterweight. Two of the best in the division facing each other got replaced by a fight with an outcome that's predetermined.

[ИATAS]

First off Brook wasn't having issues with Vargas, HEARN tried to cut his offer by 20% at the last minute, Like who the f.uck does that and why would TR & Vargas accept that. Vargas had signed Brook hadnt because they probably offered him sh.it $ knowing he'd balk and then swoop in with a high offer for GGG. But I find it hard to believe HEARN was doing his best to make those 2 fights had trouble then had a lightbulb moment and made those 2 into 1 and everyone involved was onboard and 20 min later it was all done


Like everyone thought Saunders over priced himself and was quick to diss him, It took more $ to get Brook in the ring. ,So did Saunders duck or wanted to be paid fairly same with Jacobs

Saunders is trying to get a Canelo fight . He'll be on his undercard and the rumors are they will fight after. Saunders turned down both Golovkin and Jacobs. My point wasn't even that he ducked, it was put yourself in the perspective of Golovkin/k2- they wasted a lot of time with Canelo who reneged on the deal, they went after Saunders who rejected them, Jacobs wants 1.5 years and now Eubank. At some point they have to sign to fight someone.

I don't even put the blame on Gennady he'll fight whoever K2 wants whether it Ward, Brook,Lara , Canelo , Fury **** even Chicolatito whoever , the guys a champ and I don't think he'd duck anyone , But Loefflers and f.ucking clown

I don't think he's the best promoter either but to suggest this was some elaborate smoke screen is crazy talk.

Your always a GGG apologist like be objective this isn't a good opponet for GGG it proves nothing. And his competition level has actually gone downhill in the last 1 1/2 years , like how the f.uck is that possible

I've said from the start Brook is a bad opponent for Golovkin. I've said repeatedly it's a mismatch and it's pointless.

His competition went down because he can't fight the top guys at middleweight. Obviously he had to fight his mandatory in Wade due to Canelo demanding an extension and Saunders turned down a fight then as well. Those were the only two unification fights out there. Now we're in a similar situation - Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs and Eubank , all four can't/won't sign. I think k2 liked the deal Hearn had drawn up for Eubank, being that it's in the UK on UK PPV, good money etc, they offered k2 the same deal but with Brook as an alternative and they took it. I don't think it's the fight Golovkin or k2 wanted but they liked the deal.

[Motorcity Cobra]

probably because I doubt Hearn had put one in front of him yet. My guess would be Hearn was operating off a verbal with Brook (its his own fighter so its not a big deal) until he could work out the provision of services with Arum, which he was unable to do.......

You were right about the provision of services not yet signed but Hearn said they had came to a number that works. This was from an article a couple of days ago

"He is not lying, he has signed a bout agreement with Top Rank - saying that he will fight Kell Brook. But that's irrelevant, because the provision of services central agreement - between Top Rank and Matchroom - is not signed or agreed - because it's too much money, quite simply," Hearn explained.

"We were negotiating with Top Rank and Bob Arum over the weekend. We are now in position where we have a number, a package that we are happy to progress with."

//krikya360.com/brook-vs-...umbers--106360

[HeroBando]

There's lots of things your writing that I get, I just don't think this fight was thought of and executed in a day

it seems that everyone knows sr. Is almost impossible to deal with so this had to be expected but tge one thing I will say is that Sr is a former fighter so he knows the in & outs of maximizing $ such as the tix prices and ownig the rights of the fight of course he's going to try and get that

K2 said it was all about the belts, Saunders owns the last one why would he settle for what Lemiuex had when at the time it would have only been GGG 2 nd strap. Saunders overpriced himself but obviously the $ out there especially in the UK. And Jacibs why would he going to accept Quillen $. They had to know that be rejected. Like if your boss wanted you to work 10hrs for whatever money and you did it would you accept it next time if he wanted you to work 16hrs (bigger challenge ) for the same $ but you'd be respected more in Yor company. probably not


It's just enough is enough as far as these over matched opponets for GGG like it's always excuses. Since GGG been in HBo every notable fighters with the exception of Adonus taken a risk somewhat or shown the willingness
Broner - Maidana / Porter
Thurman - Porter
Porter- Thurman / Brook
Canelo - Mayweathers, Lara , Cotto
Ward - Kov
Danny - Matthysse , Peterson
Wilder - Povetkin ( fell through)

And the list goes on and on but GGG hasn't even attempted to risk anything his last 4 fights are a WW, A nobody and never will be in Wade, a questionable champion inLemiux and F.ucking Willie Monroe like is that for real this garbage.

Obviously Eubank didn't know his value, unless he was out to sabotage the fight. 4m is a ton of money for anyone at MW, never mind a guy that just made 70k on an undercard.

They offered Saunders a UK fight, his promoter couldn't come up with the money. Nobody cares about BJ even back home. The Lemieux Ppv barely paid for itself, should 3 belt champ fight for free to accommodate Saunders? I don't see Jacobs making 1.5m anytime soon with the dearth of names, falling Pbc wages, and terrible numbers he did with Quillin. As I said, I'm sure there was Ppv upside for him, if he thinks he brings much more to the table his final purse would show it.

Let's face it, nobody is much of a risk for Ggg at 160 or below at this point, even include 168. Froch was a bigger risk than any current SMw,a nd he was offered 168 and the hometown advantage.

[HeroBando]

So it takes a month to get the money situation with his own fighter situated? Like onepuch said, he was probably working on a verbal agreement with Brook. Saw the opportunity to make more money with Brook vs. GGG than with GGG vs Eubank and Brook vs. Vargas and he pulled the trigger. Brook was his ***** card and Loeffler had a choice to make. Reject the Brook fight and move the date. Accept the Brook fight because the money is to good to turn down. This was a strictly business decision from both sides. This isn't a good fight and it's not a fight any boxing fan should be encouraging especially when it took away a good unification fight at welterweight. Two of the best in the division facing each other got replaced by a fight with an outcome that's predetermined.

Well guess what,Ggg makes for a much bigger event than Vargas, so there was way more money in it. Eubank could have easily destroyed Hearns cunning plan by signing that outrageous offer but turns out he was lying, really didn't want it next. As for Ggg, he's offered his career high by far, huge exposure in a lucrative new market but he should pass for nothing in sight, forget that date, fight some other time

[jose.sooto]

I can't believe how people are eating up all of this bull**** by Eddie Hearn and Loeffler

They never had any intentions of making the Eubank Jr fight

You honestly want me to believe they secured the Brook vs GGG fight within 24hrs, did a deal with HBO and had all the art work ready? LOL

The reason why the Vargas fight was delayed is because Brook and GGG have been negotiating long before Eubank and GGG. This was the reason for the delay.

This was not some last min thing, this was always planned, they just used Eubank Jr as a dummy to make it look like he avoided the fight and how everyone is ducking GGG

This has nothing to do with Eubank Sr, there was never a GGG vs Eubank Jr fight on the table, he was used as a tool for promotion and got stitched up by Hearn

Brook was GGG's first option...and he was also Eddie Hearns first option for the fight

Exactly! i am so glad i am not the only one who is able to see right through the BS. Most of the news headlines you read on the internet are far from being facts. 99% of the time a fighter or promoter opens up his mouth is to create a news headlines but it really doesn't mean more than that. Like the time Floyd Mayweather JnR said he would make Thurman-Spence and then everyone said that Keith ducked Errol when in reality May was just talking to generate interest in Spence Jr. All this he say, she said is pure bs but you guys ALWAYS fall for it.

[Pigeons]

I can't believe how people are eating up all of this bull**** by Eddie Hearn and Loeffler

They never had any intentions of making the Eubank Jr fight

You honestly want me to believe they secured the Brook vs GGG fight within 24hrs, did a deal with HBO and had all the art work ready? LOL

The reason why the Vargas fight was delayed is because Brook and GGG have been negotiating long before Eubank and GGG. This was the reason for the delay.

This was not some last min thing, this was always planned, they just used Eubank Jr as a dummy to make it look like he avoided the fight and how everyone is ducking GGG

This has nothing to do with Eubank Sr, there was never a GGG vs Eubank Jr fight on the table, he was used as a tool for promotion and got stitched up by Hearn

Brook was GGG's first option...and he was also Eddie Hearns first option for the fight

Preach it my brotha.

[kafkod]

I can't believe how people are eating up all of this bull**** by Eddie Hearn and Loeffler

They never had any intentions of making the Eubank Jr fight

You honestly want me to believe they secured the Brook vs GGG fight within 24hrs, did a deal with HBO and had all the art work ready? LOL

The reason why the Vargas fight was delayed is because Brook and GGG have been negotiating long before Eubank and GGG. This was the reason for the delay.

This was not some last min thing, this was always planned, they just used Eubank Jr as a dummy to make it look like he avoided the fight and how everyone is ducking GGG

This has nothing to do with Eubank Sr, there was never a GGG vs Eubank Jr fight on the table, he was used as a tool for promotion and got stitched up by Hearn

Brook was GGG's first option...and he was also Eddie Hearns first option for the fight

I'm pretty sure that Hearn knew Brook wanted the GGG fight all along and that Loeffler also knew that Brook would be there as plan B if the fight with Jnr fell through. That was why they they were able to make GGG/Brook so quickly.

But I am 100% sure that both Loeffler and Hearn would have preferred GGG to fight Eubank Jnr rather than Brook, and that Hearn genuinely tried to make it happen.

If Hearn had used the Eubank's in the way you suggest, then told bare-faced lies about Snr to the media, he would be sued for slander, and maybe libel too, and wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Well guess what,Ggg makes for a much bigger event than Vargas, so there was way more money in it. Eubank could have easily destroyed Hearns cunning plan by signing that outrageous offer but turns out he was lying, really didn't want it next. As for Ggg, he's offered his career high by far, huge exposure in a lucrative new market but he should pass for nothing in sight, forget that date, fight some other time

Exactly, it was a business decision. GGG is now on my p4p business decision list