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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
    What this really is, is a preemptive excuse from a hardcore ggg fan who is worried that if ggg fights Canelo in a year or two, that ggg might lose and OP's trying to plant the seed in people's minds that it will not be a legit win.
    Or it's just calling it for what it is. Canelo avoided the fight, after making a deal to fight him after an extension. They don't want the fight at all but if Golovkin happens to lose a couple steps when he gets older, then sure they'll fight him- much less risk at that point.

    We already know for 100% fact Canelo ducked the fight so what else is there to say?

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      #12
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Canelo is fighting as a Junior Middleweight. There is no reason to fight GGG unless GGG comes down to 154. People need to move on until/if Canelo goes to middleweight. You asked him to give up the belt if he wasn't going to fight the full 160 and he did.
      The whole point is he brought all this on himself by number one, fighting for the middleweight belt and number two by calling GGG in the ring saying his infamous"Mexicans don't f#$% around" line. I guess if I could fight legitimate 154 founders while I'm came into the ring as a light heavyweight then I would stick to that too.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
        Or it's just calling it for what it is. Canelo avoided the fight, after making a deal to fight him after an extension. They don't want the fight at all but if Golovkin happens to lose a couple steps when he gets older, then sure they'll fight him- much less risk at that point.

        We already know for 100% fact Canelo ducked the fight so what else is there to say?
        That is exactly what I was trying to point out when I started this thread. Couldn't have said it better myself. Of course that's just my opinion but I think it's a very valid one.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
          Waiting for him to get old is an added bonus for them.
          THey're waiting him out because they saw Mayweather's blue print of making as much money fighting garbage in the interim
          You are so right!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            What this really is, is a preemptive excuse from a hardcore ggg fan who is worried that if ggg fights Canelo in a year or two, that ggg might lose and OP's trying to plant the seed in people's minds that it will not be a legit win.
            Man if that was the case I would gladly admit it. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of boxers lose it around 35 or 36. It's a fact. Not a pre-emptive anything, just a reality that all boxers face. Classic case is Roy Jones and De la hoya. At 35 they were maybe 65 percent of what they were in their prime.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
              Develop what? He's been a pro for 11 years, he's at his peak. Further, why fight down? Fighting Amir Khan and now Smith isn't helping him develop and prepare him for top middleweights. You know what would? Fighting actual middleweights.

              Canelo and Co are simply fighting who they want, when they want. He can because he's a popular Mexican fighter and can fight anyone he wants. It's worked for them well so far, like fighting Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley when shot. Fighting Matthew Hatton for a world title. Fighting Angulo after he got stopped twice . Fighting Kirkland when he was so inactive and no longer with Wolfe. And now fighting the weakest link at 154 rather than his mandatory Golovkin or even a top champion at 154.

              He's opportunistic and they will continue to be opportunistic. If Golovkin happens to look terrible against Eubank, I'm sure they'll jump all over it. If he looks good, "need more time, not a middleweight yet!"
              Dude you got my vote for post of the year. You were spot on with everything you said. Well written too.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                Develop what? He's been a pro for 11 years, he's at his peak. Further, why fight down? Fighting Amir Khan and now Smith isn't helping him develop and prepare him for top middleweights. You know what would? Fighting actual middleweights.

                Canelo and Co are simply fighting who they want, when they want. He can because he's a popular Mexican fighter and can fight anyone he wants. It's worked for them well so far, like fighting Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley when shot. Fighting Matthew Hatton for a world title. Fighting Angulo after he got stopped twice . Fighting Kirkland when he was so inactive and no longer with Wolfe. And now fighting the weakest link at 154 rather than his mandatory Golovkin or even a top champion at 154.

                He's opportunistic and they will continue to be opportunistic. If Golovkin happens to look terrible against Eubank, I'm sure they'll jump all over it. If he looks good, "need more time, not a middleweight yet!"
                The first point is debatable, the rest is noise. Canelo has been fighting 147 and 154lbers. Do you somehow disagree with that? So, to fight for the 160lb title (without having ever fought a true 160lber) would be a step up, no? Now, if you follow all that then it's not a stretch to say a guy develops when he takes a step up like that. Physically and as a fighter as well.

                Canelo is getting better all the time and those who don't see it need to avert their eyes from Golovkin too half a sec and take an honest look at what's going on.
                I'm not a Canelo fan, nor am I defending his opposition or career moves. Just trying to inject some logic into this ****** concept that he's waiting for Golovkin to age, especially when he doesn't need Golovkin for anything. You ggg fans latch onto the goofiest theories, as long as they support your hero. Tell me the story again about Ward ducking Golovkin...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                  Develop what? He's been a pro for 11 years, he's at his peak. Further, why fight down? Fighting Amir Khan and now Smith isn't helping him develop and prepare him for top middleweights. You know what would? Fighting actual middleweights.

                  Canelo and Co are simply fighting who they want, when they want. He can because he's a popular Mexican fighter and can fight anyone he wants. It's worked for them well so far, like fighting Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley when shot. Fighting Matthew Hatton for a world title. Fighting Angulo after he got stopped twice . Fighting Kirkland when he was so inactive and no longer with Wolfe. And now fighting the weakest link at 154 rather than his mandatory Golovkin or even a top champion at 154.

                  He's opportunistic and they will continue to be opportunistic. If Golovkin happens to look terrible against Eubank, I'm sure they'll jump all over it. If he looks good, "need more time, not a middleweight yet!"
                  LOL, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How about we bring up a couple of names in Lil G's resume such as Friday Night Fighter Willie Monroe Jr or wife beater Dominic Wade not to mention his top victories like (beat by two bums in Rubio & Alcine)David Lemieux or (can't beat George Groves) Martin Murray. LOL... No matter how you cut Canelo resume is far superior to Lil G's. At least Canelo is fighting a World Champion in his next fight unlike Lil G who will be fighting another prospect his 3rd in his last 4 fights, what a joke.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sgtairborne24 View Post
                    Man if that was the case I would gladly admit it. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of boxers lose it around 35 or 36. It's a fact. Not a pre-emptive anything, just a reality that all boxers face. Classic case is Roy Jones and De la hoya. At 35 they were maybe 65 percent of what they were in their prime.
                    Your whole concept is based on some junk science theory that the male metabolism goes through a radical change at age 35.
                    That's literally the ******est statement I've read on here all week and I've read some real gems.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      Your whole concept is based on some junk science theory that the male metabolism goes through a radical change at age 35.
                      That's literally the ******est statement I've read on here all week and I've read some real gems.
                      Are you seriously ******ed? Or just an idiot. It's well known that mid to upper 30s is generally when the majority of boxers and all athletes for that matter slowly, some faster than others lose their athletic ability. And "******est" is not a word genius.

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