Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Reacts To Muhammad Ali's Passing

[LacedUp]

I disagree. Ali came along during the height of the civil rights movement, when African Americans were mistreated in this country. I believe Floyd is referring to that. If he had said that Ali paved the way for him and all other fighters of color, it would have been better understood what I think he meant.

Why fighters of colour? Ali changed sports period. All colours included.

[Mayabang]

am I missing something here? I didn't see anything wrong with what Floyd said.

[Furn]

Jesus you'd think today we could all put the **** aside and send off the greatest in style.

[LacedUp]

Yes I'm aware you were being sarcastic but you were comparing it to the logic applied which is ridiculous.

Ridiculing it in what way? He critisized it and he said that kind of performance shouldn't be glorified in his opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

Where did he say Ali as a fighter shouldn't be glorified? And even if he did that's not classless either that's once again just his opinion. He doesn't have to like the guy.

Froch doesn't like Ali much. No problem with that whatsoever. He says it in a straight forward and decent way.

At no point did he go into specifics and say his victory over Foreman shouldn't be glorified or ridiculing that he lost to Leon Spinks - Things that are just disrespectful and tasteless to bring up.

Why does Floyd feel like he needs do it? Because he's a scared little man. Just like Tyson says.

Totally misplaced comments that myself and many others found tasteless.

[NaijaD]

Floyd's words are actually more meaningful than you all are giving him credit for, he's letting you know that Ali made it possible for his success. Most of you in here acting all high and mighty are just laughable... Your lives wouldn't be any different with or without Ali. Some of you probably have Ali mixed up with MLK.

I respect what I've read and watched about the man but he has no impact on my life but here's a man in Floyd who's career was probably aided by Ali's exploits and success but people want to criticise his truthful words.

[paulf]

Just fk off floyd and take your fans with you everyone can read through you thugs

Welcome back bro, I really missed your sig.

[SUBZER0ED]

What made him a real cultural hero as opposed to Floyd who is apparently a fake cultural hero?

Dodging the draft? So would Floyd. Rest assured. Anyone with the money/fame or other means dodged it.

Black power movement? Floyd seems to hold the same views.

I don't get the big difference. I guess as the years go by things people find shameful become cool. Ages into a brand.

Once that generation that looked up to you ages, and it becomes official that you got away with being a trouble maker, you become legendary.

Floyd will get there. There will be old dudes singing his praise out of nostalgia for their own youth and young guys just blindly nodding in agreement.

I consider running to Canada or paying off someone in order to not be drafted as dodging. Ali flat out refused to join the army to fight in Viet Nam. It was the most protested war in history & I don't blame Ali for refusing. WWII in contrast, was fought to prevent the free world from being taken over by madmen. 'Nam was the mighty USA's failed attempt to stamp out Communism & force a nation to adopt our ********ic governing model.

[punchr]

man I was with you, I was even happy that someone was making the point about Ali's problematic views an behavior and influence...You clearly have the ability to think in a nuanced way, yet those are the greatest contributions that you can think of from the black community as of 2016? Arguably the fact that seemingly relatively intelligent people hold this view about what black people have contributed to society is also just as misguided, lazy and uncharitable as the views you've criticized Ali for. I think it also contributes to some of the problems of the black community, it can give the impression that black people are running with the red queen...disheartening.

It's true. There is a crabs-in-a-bucket-mentality problem in the black community. If a black person pursues education and doesn't speak like an uneducated schmuck, he is called white washed or an uncle tom -- in 2016. I've had black guys tell me they were told that they weren't black enough.

Currently the primary ways blacks move up socio-economically is to sell drugs, rap, or join the NFL or NBA. Black doctors, lawyers, and guys like Neil deGrasse Tyson are outliers.

[SUBZER0ED]

Why fighters of colour? Ali changed sports period. All colours included.

Guess you had to be here during that time to understand. I was.

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I consider running to Canada or paying off someone in order to not be drafted as dodging. Ali flat out refused to join the army to fight in Viet Nam. It was the most protested war in history & I don't blame Ali for refusing. WWII in contrast, was fought to prevent the free world from being taken over by madmen. 'Nam was the mighty USA's failed attempt to stamp out Communism & force a nation to adopt our ********ic governing model.

Vietnam was more or less a continuation of WW2 since some of the same madmen (Soviets) started setting up puppet governments in the vacuum left by Germany & Japan and the US had to contain the spread to keep the cold war cold.

Biggest differences were:
1. Post atomic bomb, war simply stopped being massive pitched battles and turned into ugly police work.
2. Americans themselves -- very few sympathized with ****sm while, by then, Soviet propaganda and political groups had made communism very popular with young Americans.

Still see the effects of this today, which is why the swastika is universally banned and the hammer & sickle is worn around campus, despite being the more genocidal of the two.

Ali was only a hero if you subscribe to a certain set of political views I suppose. I don't subscribe to those views. I'm not a supporter of communist sympathizers, radical Islamic sects, etc. Not a hero.