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    Originally posted by punchr View Post
    Not really.

    Ali called other African Americans house niggers and uncle toms if they did not share his hateful views.

    He was a decent boxer who abused his status and influence to manipulate his people. When you think about it, he's done more harm than good to black people in America, i.e. encouraging the very aggressiveness, stubbornness, and close-mindedness that is impeding upward mobility in the black community. So far, the most blacks have contributed to society is joining the NBA or NFL or being a rapper.
    man I was with you, I was even happy that someone was making the point about Ali's problematic views an behavior and influence...You clearly have the ability to think in a nuanced way, yet those are the greatest contributions that you can think of from the black community as of 2016? Arguably the fact that seemingly relatively intelligent people hold this view about what black people have contributed to society is also just as misguided, lazy and uncharitable as the views you've criticized Ali for. I think it also contributes to some of the problems of the black community, it can give the impression that black people are running with the red queen...disheartening.

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      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
      No, I was being sarcastic.

      Again, I can't seem to make myself clear here. Floyd wasn't just criticizing his performances. He was ridiculing it and told us Ali absolutely didn't deserve to be glorified.

      Real class act
      Yes I'm aware you were being sarcastic but you were comparing it to the logic applied which is ridiculous.

      Ridiculing it in what way? He critisized it and he said that kind of performance shouldn't be glorified in his opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

      Where did he say Ali as a fighter shouldn't be glorified? And even if he did that's not classless either that's once again just his opinion. He doesn't have to like the guy.

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        Ali dies, Floyd write something and the haters take the opportunity just to bash.

        The real theme is that a living legend died and many will be touched by this

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          Originally posted by New England View Post
          i don't think floyd understands how selfish it sounds when you react to the death of a great man, greater than floyd by a huge stretch, by talking about how it helped you. it's just a selfish, self serving thing to say, and way to say it.


          that's the firs thing i thought when i saw it. you're fine to think that way. i thought, "wow, one of the greatest boxers of all time just died, and floyd still managed to make it about himself in 2 sentences.
          I disagree. Ali came along during the height of the civil rights movement, when African Americans were mistreated in this country. I believe Floyd is referring to that. If he had said that Ali paved the way for him and all other fighters of color, it would have been better understood what I think he meant.

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            In a way Floyd represents the world today, obsessed with money, no integrity, no cultural identity, dumb as a doorknob.

            Ali represents one of the truly Great cultural heroes of the 20th century, He comes from an era rich with truly great men trying to make the world a better place. whether it be Martin Luther King, John lennon, Malcolm X.
            Ali certainly deserves to be mentioned alongside those names.

            How many heroes are there today?

            Kind of depressing.

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              Originally posted by //// View Post
              What made him a real cultural hero as opposed to Floyd who is apparently a fake cultural hero?

              Dodging the draft? So would Floyd. Rest assured. Anyone with the money/fame or other means dodged it.

              Black power movement? Floyd seems to hold the same views.

              I don't get the big difference. I guess as the years go by things people find shameful become cool. Ages into a brand.

              Once that generation that looked up to you ages, and it becomes official that you got away with being a trouble maker, you become legendary. Floyd will get there.
              Where did I say Floyd was a fake cultural hero?

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                Ali never had respect for someone like Jr. TBE? What a joke and disrespectful act toward the Greatest. People forget Ali lost 4 year of his physical prime (from 25-29) and is still consider the best ever. His story extends well beyond boxing. His story is woven into the fabric of this country. He is the best of the USA in that he could rise up and elevate his sport despite coming from humble beginnings, and he is part of the worst of this country when it comes to civil rights and him standing up against the Vietnam war.
                When Jr. passes it will be just a footnote, another good boxer passing away.

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                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  I didn't even bother reading what you wrote. You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change your mind. This is pointless. Please don't respond.
                  You're deflecting because I exposed your bullshit.

                  Just admit defeat and log off lol.

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                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    i don't think floyd understands how selfish it sounds when you react to the death of a great man, greater than floyd by a huge stretch, by talking about how it helped you. it's just a selfish, self serving thing to say, and way to say it.


                    that's the firs thing i thought when i saw it. you're fine to think that way. i thought, "wow, one of the greatest boxers of all time just died, and floyd still managed to make it about himself in 2 sentences.
                    I don't think so either. But I don't think he necessarily had ill will.

                    But his past comments in connection to this makes us think about his selfishness. That's what I was trying to say.

                    He should have just said what he said and if bringing up what Ali did for others, then use plural language as in "what he did for fighters now". Nobody cares about Floyd right now.

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                      I don't think there was anything wrong with what Floyd said. He was praising Ali. I don't see what the problem is. I mean, yeah, he was saying things like how he usually does but if you put it aside, he was giving Ali a lot of praise.

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