Comments Thread For: Video: Klimas on Lomachenko-Walters, Gradovich, More

[HI-TECH Boxing]

i gave him credit for russell beat down and thinks he beats everyone at 126..im not sure of walters...being a fan is not labeled as not telling the truth..and no i dont want to see any rigo fight at 126..that dude is about 40 no matter wat his certificat says and he only weighs 126 in the ring, plus he is coming off lay off..i dont know if u get it or not but rigo is done likely..if someone wanted credit for beating rigo the white and mexican fans shouldnt have ducked him for years until he meant nothing and got old...
and yess i want to see lomo walters..but i stated all facts..u cannot think ppl will take even money with him since he has a loss and no fan base his record says by the time he has 12 fights he'll have 2 losses, 18 fights 3 losses
24 fights 4 losses, 28 fights, 5 losses...mean while walters is at 28 and 0 and didnt lose withing 6 fights...

u have to be willing to sacrifice if u are going to fast track and u have to do it up front not on the back end..i dont see fighters thinking about back end incentives unless it is ppv. common sense is the best way to make fights..

i called leo, selby,and the rest of 126 ducks...but when i point out one truth i cant be a fan bc u have pic up and u'll accept any bs they say

Truth about what? You ain't saying ****.
Walters has no fanbase either! Are Rigo or Walters making bigger money anywhere else? Please, tell me if they are. Rigo complains that he can't get a fight, but when someone offers him fights he doesn't take them. Not just the Loma situation, but apparently the Japanese wanted him back in Japan over a year ago and he didn't take those offers. Nobody is going to help Rigo if he can't help his damn self first. Rigo is going to be one of those fighters that ends up fighting longer than he needs to.
Walters and Lomachenko need each other right now. The winner will go on to bigger and better things.
Lomachenko-Walters is never going to be a big super fight.
Also, what does having a loss matter? If you mean Loma would be an easy fight then Walters and Rigo should take that easy money, right? Why do you care about records so much? I want to see the best fight the ****ing best! Apparently you don't. Especially in their prime.
Walters didn't lose within 6 fights, but he also didn't step up until he had well over 20 fights and had been a pro for six years already. Loma's first opponent was better than at least the first 21 opponents Walters had.
At the end of the day, I don't want to compare their records, I actually want to see these guys fight. Is there anything wrong with that?

Let's not get carried away, I wouldn't say Leo has ducked Loma. Both have said they would be open to fight each other, but I don't think it has gone farther than that though (from what I can remember). I'll need more evidence. I may be forgetting something. Selby on the other hand straight up said he doesn't want to fight the other top guy until 2 years from sometime in 2015. So yeah, Selby is a hoe.

The type of mentality you have is one of the many reasons boxers act like divas. We, boxing fans, complain that we don't get to see the best fight the best, but we have to blame some on ourselves. It's crazy that boxing fans have your mentality.

[Mitchell Kane]

Lomachenko-Walters is never going to be a big super fight.

Super fight or not, the match-up had genuine interest until Walters blew it on the scales against Marriaga.

[The Akbar One]

Of course Lomachenko should get paid more.

The fighter that moves up to a higher weight class should get paid more money, unless he's going up against a much bigger star (Like Canelo Khan). But seeing as Lomachenko and Walters are roughly on the same level, Lomachenko should get paid more because he's taking the bigger risk. He's the one moving up to 130 and he's essentially giving Walters the advantages. So the least they could do is pay Lomachenko more. That's the way it should be, otherwise what kind of incentive is it to move up if you're not fighting for a belt and the other guy wants to get paid the same amount as you do?

Hell no Lomo shouldn't get paid more. Walters has beaten the name fighter between the two. Walter chopped Donaire down, and still gets paid 300K, while Lomo gets Paid 750K to fight bums.

[TheCell8]

Hell no Lomo shouldn't get paid more. Walters has beaten the name fighter between the two. Walter chopped Donaire down, and still gets paid 300K, while Lomo gets Paid 750K to fight bums.

If he's moving up, then he absolutely should.

[tiliheels]

Truth about what? You ain't saying ****.
Walters has no fanbase either! Are Rigo or Walters making bigger money anywhere else? Please, tell me if they are. Rigo complains that he can't get a fight, but when someone offers him fights he doesn't take them. Not just the Loma situation, but apparently the Japanese wanted him back in Japan over a year ago and he didn't take those offers. Nobody is going to help Rigo if he can't help his damn self first. Rigo is going to be one of those fighters that ends up fighting longer than he needs to.
Walters and Lomachenko need each other right now. The winner will go on to bigger and better things.
Lomachenko-Walters is never going to be a big super fight.
Also, what does having a loss matter? If you mean Loma would be an easy fight then Walters and Rigo should take that easy money, right? Why do you care about records so much? I want to see the best fight the ****ing best! Apparently you don't. Especially in their prime.
Walters didn't lose within 6 fights, but he also didn't step up until he had well over 20 fights and had been a pro for six years already. Loma's first opponent was better than at least the first 21 opponents Walters had.
At the end of the day, I don't want to compare their records, I actually want to see these guys fight. Is there anything wrong with that?

Let's not get carried away, I wouldn't say Leo has ducked Loma. Both have said they would be open to fight each other, but I don't think it has gone farther than that though (from what I can remember). I'll need more evidence. I may be forgetting something. Selby on the other hand straight up said he doesn't want to fight the other top guy until 2 years from sometime in 2015. So yeah, Selby is a hoe.

The type of mentality you have is one of the many reasons boxers act like divas. We, boxing fans, complain that we don't get to see the best fight the best, but we have to blame some on ourselves. It's crazy that boxing fans have your mentality.

telling rigo to go to 126 is like telling lomo to jump right to 140
rigo weights 126 in right lomo weighs 135-138...i dont care to see a fight full of advantages for either man..

wat if lomo got a p4p win..and the USA told him get out of here and go to Japan...lol that is not right

i want to see bst fight the best as well, but i'd prefer the weights be freaking close and not 10-15lbs apart under freaking lightweight

no my mentally is killing the white fan who wantst he make the black boxer 2nd tier to everyone...my mentally is fairness and i still some of the bst fights happen...u're basically telling a guy with 6 fights a loss and no huge win your on par with a guy with 30 fights and a win over a former p4p fighter and 4 time champ...doesnt work like that
dont count walters or lomo's pockets...bc it is not much in either...but resuem and ranking matters...walters is rated high by wba..therefore he doesnt have to take short money to fight someone who is not bringin him any ranking...im not ruining it bob is by hashing out insulting offers...there is a reason why walters didnt take it

[tiliheels]

now you get it.

i didnt see those quotes until he sent them...and that is fine..i dont search bob arum daily...but boxingscene and articles where bob says he cant get lomo or postol hbo dates and he might ship them to showtime...did i lie? HE FINALLY GOT HIM A DATE

[tiliheels]

If he's moving up, then he absolutely should.

WALTERS ISNT BEGGING HIM TO MOVE UP...he is content at 130 whether or not lomo joins him...lomo is begging for the fight so if he is that confident he should take the short money and show why he wa that confident...dont do these little fake halfway incentive offers...i have seen a fight made like that in the last 10 years

[HI-TECH Boxing]

telling rigo to go to 126 is like telling lomo to jump right to 140
rigo weights 126 in right lomo weighs 135-138...i dont care to see a fight full of advantages for either man..

wat if lomo got a p4p win..and the USA told him get out of here and go to Japan...lol that is not right

i want to see bst fight the best as well, but i'd prefer the weights be freaking close and not 10-15lbs apart under freaking lightweight

no my mentally is killing the white fan who wantst he make the black boxer 2nd tier to everyone...my mentally is fairness and i still some of the bst fights happen...u're basically telling a guy with 6 fights a loss and no huge win your on par with a guy with 30 fights and a win over a former p4p fighter and 4 time champ...doesnt work like that
dont count walters or lomo's pockets...bc it is not much in either...but resuem and ranking matters...walters is rated high by wba..therefore he doesnt have to take short money to fight someone who is not bringin him any ranking...im not ruining it bob is by hashing out insulting offers...there is a reason why walters didnt take it

Rigo has rehydrated to 128 and 127 before and Loma mostly rehydrates to 134 or 135 and has been as low as 129. Walters will probably have 10 pounds on Loma on fight night and you don't see me complaining. I say let's make it happen. It's funny how people's mind changes though. Lomachenko was supposedly ducking Rigo, but as soon as Loma calls his bluff Rigo doesn't want it.
Fighting in Japan is better than not fighting. Make your freaking money, if they're offering it to you, instead of crying and complaining.
What is going on is that Eastern Europeans and Asian fighters are allowed to go pro now and are starting to go pro and some people feel threaten by it. That's what is going on. I could tell you're one of the people that feels threaten. Professional boxing is becoming more diverse and people don't like it.
If you're so worried about weight then we should bring back same day weigh-ins.
I wouldn't mind that at all. I am also not a big fan of fighters rehydrating 15-20 pounds over night. I bet you Loma would still be a Featherweight if there was a same day weigh-in though. Loma looks nice and healthy at 126.

Tell me this: What is Walters going to do then? What is he going to do? You act like Walters has big fights coming up, so then tell me what those fights are. Neither Walters nor Loma got big fights last year, they need each other right now.
You probably want Walters for your boy Fortuna, right? That's probably it.
Can't believe idiots like you don't want the good/great fights. You act like you're making amazing points but you're not. You're hopeless man.

[RetroSpeed05]

WALTERS ISNT BEGGING HIM TO MOVE UP...he is content at 130 whether or not lomo joins him...lomo is begging for the fight so if he is that confident he should take the short money and show why he wa that confident...dont do these little fake halfway incentive offers...i have seen a fight made like that in the last 10 years

Like Kilmas said this is not a sure win its is a very hard fight for Loma, and hes willing to fight him at 130 and Loma aint getting some crazy pay either but is still willing to test himself.

[tiliheels]

Rigo has rehydrated to 128 and 127 before and Loma mostly rehydrates to 134 or 135 and has been as low as 129. Walters will probably have 10 pounds on Loma on fight night and you don't see me complaining. I say let's make it happen. It's funny how people's mind changes though. Lomachenko was supposedly ducking Rigo, but as soon as Loma calls his bluff Rigo doesn't want it.
Fighting in Japan is better than not fighting. Make your freaking money, if they're offering it to you, instead of crying and complaining.
What is going on is that Eastern Europeans and Asian fighters are allowed to go pro now and are starting to go pro and some people feel threaten by it. That's what is going on. I could tell you're one of the people that feels threaten. Professional boxing is becoming more diverse and people don't like it.
If you're so worried about weight then we should bring back same day weigh-ins.
I wouldn't mind that at all. I am also not a big fan of fighters rehydrating 15-20 pounds over night. I bet you Loma would still be a Featherweight if there was a same day weigh-in though. Loma looks nice and healthy at 126.

Tell me this: What is Walters going to do then? What is he going to do? You act like Walters has big fights coming up, so then tell me what those fights are. Neither Walters nor Loma got big fights last year, they need each other right now.
You probably want Walters for your boy Fortuna, right? That's probably it.
Can't believe idiots like you don't want the good/great fights. You act like you're making amazing points but you're not. You're hopeless man.

Bs lomo's going to come in at 135 plus from on out...and he's 26 right? rigo is basically 40...by the time lomo is 40 he's be 147lbs...he's draining his body one man is at his natural weight..and if u want to see rigo go up to 126 after damn near 2 year off that is just not the kind of fight that a real fans wants..that is not rigo at his best and every advan for lomo...we differ hear i dont care to argue..u have motives i just have a real monitor for BS and im calling with all u ppl who basically told rigo to f off unless he goes up in weight but his division was stack..and u same ppl tell ggg to stay at 160 and fight nobodies..bye man..dont ever talk to me again on here forreal man