People who DKSAB call it running, if you have never boxed you'll never understand it

[b00g13man]

watch a proper boxer called genady if you want to see how to use footwork and the ring.

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[Crazylegs77]

I get laughs when people talk about a fighters physique, power, speed etc.....it all means nothing if you dont have proper footing. Foot work gets you in a position to hit, defend, slip, slide and reset


Most people dont know **** about boxing, have ever laced up a pair of gloves or even sparred a few rounds but want to call the most important part of the sport running.


Boxing isnt rock em sock em robots...if you dont have good footwork you wont be a good fighter regardless of style or temperment.

real trainers train from the feet up, thats how Merhav Mohar taught me and thats how I will begin with my stable

Does it take more skill to stay in the pocket and not get hit, or to side step around the ring and clinch for 1:50 seconds and jab for 10?

[-PBP-]

sure there is. clinching nonstop like wlad, ward, or floyd is wrong but that's if you care about the rules. if you don't then its the greatest thing ever.

people are so butthurt that Floyd retired 49-0

[Spoon23]

Does it take more skill to stay in the pocket and not get hit, or to side step around the ring and clinch for 1:50 seconds and jab for 10?

Good point chap!

The best runners waste 90% or a 3 minute round by running and clinching. What is left is 10% or less hitting. Less action is how they live and breath lol

AKA: lame boxing

AKA: waste of ppv

AKA: boring boxing

[IronDanHamza]

There are fighters who do "run".

De La Hoya in the last 4 rounds against Trinidad. That was "running"

Willie Pastrano in the vast majority of his fights "ran" the entire time.

Hell, even Ali in the 60's, he was constantly on the backfoot always moving quickly backwards.

But just because someone fights on the backfoot doesn't make them a "runner". Take someone like Carlos Monzon for example, he fought on the backfoot a lot yet he never really "ran", he boxed off the backfoot.

People call Mayweather a runner, but he's really not. Sure, there's been times where he has like Baldomir for example but there's many times where Floyd literally stands flat on his feet right infront of his opponent and claims the centre of the ring, so many occasions.

So much so that at one time everyone was saying his legs are shot. After the Mosley fight in 2010 that was the new thing to say, "Floyd's legs are shot he can't move anymore" Freddie Roach said it and then everyone followed suit. So how can your legs be shot and a runner at the same time?

[Spoon23]

It's fine to run if he's actually fighting, but if it's all about wasting time and throwing the least punch output in the game of punching. That's what you call pathetic boxing.

There should be a rule that at least 2minutes of a 3 minute round is punching not running and hugging. Having to hug and run for 2minutes and 50 seconds of a round is inexcusably pathetic boxing.

Cough cough Mayweather cough cough..

[-PBP-]

It's fine to run if he's actually fighting, but if it's all about wasting time and throwing the least punch output in the game of punching. That's what you call pathetic boxing.

There should be a rule that at least 2minutes of a 3 minute round is punching not running and hugging. Having to hug and run for 2minutes and 50 seconds of a round is inexcusably pathetic boxing.

Cough cough Mayweather cough cough..

He wants to change the rules of boxing after the epic devastation he endured over the past year. You gonna start a petition?

At least you're finding ways to better cope with your loss.

[Dosumpthin]

Has ggg even fought anyone that can punch yet? I like the guy but I need to see what he does vs someone who can hurt him.

Every fight I've watched so far he is just walking in with little head movement and taking big shots from weak fighters.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Quite a few people are hypocrites. Cases-in-point:

Inside skills is lacking. People need to stop this nonsense.

Mayweather/Alvarez. Floyd was right there tagging him all night long. Floyd's inside game is NOT lacking and has not. He simply chooses not to fight that way when it doesn't suit him. That's called Boxing IQ.

if thats how i feel about getting hit, i'll look for a new job.

Victor Ortiz, is that you?

Floyd of late ran, grabbed & held excessively.

An average of once per round. Compared to Grabomir Clinchko, a guy people call an ATG, who did WAY worse. Come on man.

He pot-shotted his opponents when they were stuck in pursuit mode & were in poor position to land a counter. It's hard to hit a moving target, & I'll wager that most fighters train to fight, not chase, so it's hard to make that adjustment.

That's called Boxing IQ. Fighting smart.

If your opponent is training for a southpaw, you fight orthodox to throw them off (Marvin Hagler did this). If your opponent is a come forward power KO artist you outbox them (Hamed/Barrera, Hearns/Duran). If your opponent is a speed demon you nullify with the jab and body shots.

people who run around the ring and jab here and there piss me off. Thats not boxing.

So what you're saying is that Sugar Ray Leonard ran against Roberto Duran in the rematch? Or did he just outsmart him to the point of frustration?

The jab is a valid, valuable punch. Every trainer worth their stuff will tell you that the jab is key to winning fights. Fighters who don't jab, lose.

When Keith Thurman just starts circling the ring away from his opponent ....not jabbing, not setting nothing up..Thats Running

Nope. That's wearing your opponent down legally. Unlike Grabomir who will just lean on you.

Guys like Pep and Sweet Pea were able to use footwork and still be entertaining, but not everyone can pull that off. I laugh at people who make themselves out to be intellectuals because they like a boring fighter or style. You don't have a higher understanding than other people. Boxing is entertainment and people want to have fun when they watch a fight.

Here's a video that showcases what I saw during MayPac. I didn't find it boring. I found it enlightening on how good Floyd really was that night WITHOUT trying hard. People are jaded because of rounds 4 and 6. But across 12 Money Mayweather was a thing of excellence. Right in front of him all night long except 12 but nullified Pacquiao's predictable combo flurry setup. (Mute your audio)

Pot shoting and running around with no bad intentions but to score is amateur boxing in a nutshell.

The point is to win the fight, no matter how. You've been misled.

come on man , Floyd runs and it works but to deny he doesn't run is just nuthuggery

Go back and watch Mayweather/Berto. If you call that "running", Roger Mayweather's got something for you.

[Dosumpthin]

Quite a few people are hypocrites. Cases-in-point:



Mayweather/Alvarez. Floyd was right there tagging him all night long. Floyd's inside game is NOT lacking and has not. He simply chooses not to fight that way when it doesn't suit him. That's called Boxing IQ.



Victor Ortiz, is that you?



An average of once per round. Compared to Grabomir Clinchko, a guy people call an ATG, who did WAY worse. Come on man.



That's called Boxing IQ. Fighting smart.

If your opponent is training for a southpaw, you fight orthodox to throw them off (Marvin Hagler did this). If your opponent is a come forward power KO artist you outbox them (Hamed/Barrera, Hearns/Duran). If your opponent is a speed demon you nullify with the jab and body shots.



So what you're saying is that Sugar Ray Leonard ran against Roberto Duran in the rematch? Or did he just outsmart him to the point of frustration?

The jab is a valid, valuable punch. Every trainer worth their stuff will tell you that the jab is key to winning fights. Fighters who don't jab, lose.



Nope. That's wearing your opponent down legally. Unlike Grabomir who will just lean on you.



Here's a video that showcases what I saw during MayPac. I didn't find it boring. I found it enlightening on how good Floyd really was that night WITHOUT trying hard. People are jaded because of rounds 4 and 6. But across 12 Money Mayweather was a thing of excellence. Right in front of him all night long except 12 but nullified Pacquiao's predictable combo flurry setup. (Mute your audio)






The point is to win the fight, no matter how. You've been misled.



Go back and watch Mayweather/Berto. If you call that "running", Roger Mayweather's got something for you.

Wow. You destroyed 6 different people in one post.
Damn.
I enjoyed the fight as well.

Only thing I disagree with is you said to mute the audio. That sound track was perfect for the video.