Anthony Joshua vs Charles Martin

[Cody8804]

He has a lot of confidence, which is good.

Yeah man, confident and willing to fight the best. You can't ask for more. He absolutely did not have to take his first defense against a top ten opponent's own backyard. Respect.

[bboy80]

Cant see Martin winning this one, if we look at both their records. Joshua's is above martins at this point when all things considered.

Lets start at the amatuers:

Martin: 63 fights.
Won the 2012 National PAL Championships.
2012 National Golden Gloves Runner Up

Joshua: 20 something fights.
2010 won the ABA National Championships 91 kg+ in Bethnal Green, London as a Super Heavyweight.
2010 won the Haringey International Tournament in Haringey, London as a Super Heavyweigh
2011 won the ABA National Championships 91 kg+ in Colchester, Es*** as a Super Heavyweight
2011 came 2nd in the 16th 2011 AIBA World Boxing Championships 91 kg+ in Baku, Azerbaijan as a Super Heavyweight
2012 Super Heavyweight Olympic Gold

So comaparing their amauter records Joshua achieved more than Martin did and with less fights. However we all know that it doesnt mean they will transfer into the pro ranks. We have all seen Audley, before any idiots throw that one in. However its a good indication on how they will fair in the pro ranks.

So Pro fights:

Martin: 24 fights, 23 wins (21 knockouts), 0 losses, 1 draw
Focusing on a draw here first of all in his 7th fight. Could anyone actually see Joshua drawing against this Guy I certinaly can't. Secondly Raphael Zumbano Love, a common opponent for Joshua. Took Martin 10rnds, took Joshua 2rnds. And finally Glazkov who looked dwarfed in the ring with Martin, managed to fall over twice and hurt himself. Was a draw until that point imo. However I fully expected Martin to take over and win that if Glazkov didnt hurt himself.

Joshua: 15w 15kos 0 losses.

Has never looked in any real trouble in any of his fights, (clipped by Whyte once) thats it.. Never been past the 7th round. Johnson was supposed to give him rounds, that ended badly for Johnson.


So on paper, amatuer and current performances I'd have to say Joshua is the favorite.

[PainfromUkraine]

Joshua is favourite - if this was against a no-belt Martin, most would probably see it as a fight between two undefeated prospects, one of which looks a lot more explosive and generally better - AJ. Martin is a decent fighter of course and has that southpaw style, decent boxing and power, but not sure how good his chin is and he may get blown out by AJ. Hopefully the two styles gel well though and we get a war.

[Teddy05]

Yeah man, confident and willing to fight the best. You can't ask for more. He absolutely did not have to take his first defense against a top ten opponent's own backyard. Respect.

Yeah but hes making more for this 1 fight than wilder made for his 3 title defences combined, so its just a smart business decision

[ianjamsie]

Yeah but hes making more for this 1 fight than wilder made for his 3 title defences combined, so its just a smart business decision

Bingo.

Martin would struggle against any top prospect. He just doesn't look that good.

So he has picked the one that comes with the most cash. Makes perfect sense.

[Cody8804]

Bingo.

Martin would struggle against any top prospect. He just doesn't look that good.

So he has picked the one that comes with the most cash. Makes perfect sense.

Sometimes I wonder what it takes for a boxer to get just one little tiny iota of respect from some people. Martin could have took repeated bum fights while saying the big fights can't be made like Stevenson does. Around 3 or 4 smaller headlining fights would have equaled the Joshua money. And Martin could have fought in America, his home town or state even. Instead he is making a defense against a threat in Joshu's backyard. And it's a high risk low reward fight as people will say Joshua wasn't ready, isn't good etc if Joshua loses. So I think Martin deserves respect. I'm not saying anyone should call him p4p number one, I'm just pointing out that he did something many wouldn't have done.

[Cody8804]

Yeah but hes making more for this 1 fight than wilder made for his 3 title defences combined, so its just a smart business decision

If Joshua wins I want you to remember something- Martin's first defense was Joshua in the UK. Keep this in mind when Joshua's first defense is Shannon Briggs. It won't even be in America either.

[Teddy05]

Sometimes I wonder what it takes for a boxer to get just one little tiny iota of respect from some people. Martin could have took repeated bum fights while saying the big fights can't be made like Stevenson does. Around 3 or 4 smaller headlining fights would have equaled the Joshua money. And Martin could have fought in America, his home town or state even. Instead he is making a defense against a threat in Joshu's backyard. And it's a high risk low reward fight as people will say Joshua wasn't ready, isn't good etc if Joshua loses. So I think Martin deserves respect. I'm not saying anyone should call him p4p number one, I'm just pointing out that he did something many wouldn't have done.

Its not a high risk low reward fight, he is getting paid millions! He wouldnt have gone near Joshua if it was for peanuts. I like Martin, but to act like he did it for anything other than money is naive

[Cody8804]

Its not a high risk low reward fight, he is getting paid millions! He wouldnt have gone near Joshua if it was for peanuts. I like Martin, but to act like he did it for anything other than money is naive

Having a world title, the money is there no matter what. He could have got very low ranked fighters to fight him for $100,000 or less while Martin gets $500,000 or more. As few as two fights like that is equal to the Joshua fight. He could have went the Stevenson route and didn't. Of course he is fighting for money, every single pro boxer is. It's the point he took a risk as his first defense when he didn't have to. Joshua's first defense will be Shannon Briggs should Joshua win. And it won't be in America either.

[Teddy05]

Having a world title, the money is there no matter what. He could have got very low ranked fighters to fight him for $100,000 or less while Martin gets $500,000 or more. As few as two fights like that is equal to the Joshua fight. He could have went the Stevenson route and didn't. Of course he is fighting for money, every single pro boxer is. It's the point he took a risk as his first defense when he didn't have to. Joshua's first defense will be Shannon Briggs should Joshua win. And it won't be in America either.

Wilder has had 3 defences and hasnt made the coin martin is making on this fight. No one is going to give Charles martin 500 k in the states.

And all I read from the experts on here is that Joshua is a roided up stiff bum, so if everyone on here is to be believed, this isnt much of a risk for martin