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Who do you regard as the greatest southpaw of all-time?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postwhats the point of fighting in a lot of weight classes when you dont always fight the best in the divison....also you must be smoking that good ish if you think going from 106 kid to 147 is ground breaking
Many fighters in history beat world class fighters across the weights...Jimmy McClarnin defeated fighters who were champs/titleholders from flyweight-middleweight
Sam Langforde beat hall of famers from lightweight-heavyweight
Mickey Walker was a welterweight champion who fought hall of fame lt heavies and heavies with success
people get caught up with the divisons when they dont know much about the history of boxers
that 150 title was a joke...titles at 8 weights only 8 are lineal....How was he so "dominant" when he fought Marquez but couldnt beat him decisively in 4 tries, lost to a past prime Morales, KTFO by JMM and 2 early losses
wanna see dominance, go watch sweet pea before he was in his 30's...made good and great fighters look silly...he had the edge in skill and dominance.Last edited by The plunger man; 02-16-2016, 02:14 PM.
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostLook again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
He is definitely top ten, top 5...not the best....too many wins with catchweights, fighters coming off tko losses, bad showings...its not always the who you beat, but when you beat them.....A lot of his biggest wins are after fighters lost or looked bad on the highest level....his first win over Morales was after he lost....Margarito was battered by mosley year lay off, fights a no name, then pac fights him next....mosley was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights and hadnt won a fight in 2 or more years.....OLDH was fighting under 150 for the first time in 7 years
Great fighter, never bought in to the crazy hype....different folks different strokes
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostLook again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostLook again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postrace has nothing to do about it.....Pac is overrated, he is an ATG but definitely not top 20 or the greatest of the era like the media tried to make him out to be
He is definitely top ten, top 5...not the best....too many wins with catchweights, fighters coming off tko losses, bad showings...its not always the who you beat, but when you beat them.....A lot of his biggest wins are after fighters lost or looked bad on the highest level....his first win over Morales was after he lost....Margarito was battered by mosley year lay off, fights a no name, then pac fights him next....mosley was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights and hadnt won a fight in 2 or more years.....OLDH was fighting under 150 for the first time in 7 years
Great fighter, never bought in to the crazy hype....different folks different strokes
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThis guy is clearly an alt and fast headed toward troll status. We'll see if the latter is his goal.
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostHow am I troll when I'm stating that pacquaio has won more weights in separate divsions than anybody else and was voted fighter of the decade ....so if he done something that no fighter has ever done and he is southpaw ...what does that classify him as imo .....I think the trolls then you should look at yours truly....I'm curious when your next post is gonna be downgrading golovkn,or KOVALEV or pacquaio ..so who's the troll lol
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