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    #31
    Originally posted by BOXEO _ View Post
    Pac or Whitaker. That'd be a helluva fight prime vs prime.
    Whitaker best attributes are Pac's weaknesses....Pac was too wild and wreckless...would make Manny look foolish...he had trouble with Marquez and Morales who are great but they arent as elusive, nor were they natural lightweights like Sweet Pea....Pac would have an uphill battle....Whitaker could fight at angles, the back foot, lead, counter, jab ypou to bits....the closest I see it could be is a 8-4 type foght for Pea

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      #32
      Victor Ortiz.

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        #33
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        whats the point of fighting in a lot of weight classes when you dont always fight the best in the divison....also you must be smoking that good ish if you think going from 106 kid to 147 is ground breaking

        Many fighters in history beat world class fighters across the weights...Jimmy McClarnin defeated fighters who were champs/titleholders from flyweight-middleweight

        Sam Langforde beat hall of famers from lightweight-heavyweight

        Mickey Walker was a welterweight champion who fought hall of fame lt heavies and heavies with success



        people get caught up with the divisons when they dont know much about the history of boxers

        that 150 title was a joke...titles at 8 weights only 8 are lineal....How was he so "dominant" when he fought Marquez but couldnt beat him decisively in 4 tries, lost to a past prime Morales, KTFO by JMM and 2 early losses




        wanna see dominance, go watch sweet pea before he was in his 30's...made good and great fighters look silly...he had the edge in skill and dominance.
        Look again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
        Last edited by The plunger man; 02-16-2016, 02:14 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
          Look again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
          race has nothing to do about it.....Pac is overrated, he is an ATG but definitely not top 20 or the greatest of the era like the media tried to make him out to be


          He is definitely top ten, top 5...not the best....too many wins with catchweights, fighters coming off tko losses, bad showings...its not always the who you beat, but when you beat them.....A lot of his biggest wins are after fighters lost or looked bad on the highest level....his first win over Morales was after he lost....Margarito was battered by mosley year lay off, fights a no name, then pac fights him next....mosley was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights and hadnt won a fight in 2 or more years.....OLDH was fighting under 150 for the first time in 7 years


          Great fighter, never bought in to the crazy hype....different folks different strokes

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            #35
            Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
            Look again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
            This guy is clearly an alt and fast headed toward troll status. We'll see if the latter is his goal.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
              Look again Pacquaio has won more world titles in more divsions than anybody else and untill some other boxer wins fly up to light middlweight then come back and speak to me , beat Barrera , morales, marquez, mosley, hatton, Bradley,de la hoya ,cotto and almost every other great fighter he faced , won fighter of the decade and his record is unmatched...as I said you have an agenda and it's been so obvious in every post you do .....don't reapond to me again because I have no interest in anything that's comes from your mouth or your keyboard ....if you can downplay an achievement that will probably be never broken in our life time then theres no discussions between us ...pacquaio is the greatest southpaw of all time...followed by hagler and then Whitakerr and I give credit where credit is due no matter what skin colour....as I said before when your ready to start giving boxers there props irrespective of there skin colour then we can have decent chats...and another thing don't talk to me about knowing boxing when I know more in my left nut than you do.....u and omowale tribe have an agenda that's in a different level to anybody else on this forum.....and if you gonna mention that pacquaio never faced the best of his era then I suggest you aim that at mayweather as well.....because he faced fighters past there prime as well.....learn some knowledge
              bwahahahahaha...who did the voting.....Floyd said it best....sorry bro....they wanted Manny to be fighter of the decade and the best of the era...he wasnt....losing to Erik Morales and never beating marquez cleanly killed his claim...Floyd was far more dominant and beat their common opponents clearly in the decade and before Manny did

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                #37
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                race has nothing to do about it.....Pac is overrated, he is an ATG but definitely not top 20 or the greatest of the era like the media tried to make him out to be


                He is definitely top ten, top 5...not the best....too many wins with catchweights, fighters coming off tko losses, bad showings...its not always the who you beat, but when you beat them.....A lot of his biggest wins are after fighters lost or looked bad on the highest level....his first win over Morales was after he lost....Margarito was battered by mosley year lay off, fights a no name, then pac fights him next....mosley was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights and hadnt won a fight in 2 or more years.....OLDH was fighting under 150 for the first time in 7 years


                Great fighter, never bought in to the crazy hype....different folks different strokes
                Mayweather did that to canelo with catchweights , he faced fighters after they were knocked out , he manipulated the drug testing procedures , he demanded different gloves and yet all I see is that's ok from you and he's still the greatest of the era lol......we know why lol......pacquaio won weights from 106 up to 154 lbs and beat almost every great of his era....tell me one fighter that has won that many belts in separate divsions...it's never been according to you blah blah.....look if Whitaker had done what he did then I would say him but he didn't and that's that....and pacquaio was the fighter if the decade by the scribes so I am also gonna say he's the greatest southpaw of Al time...that's it....that's rights bro different folks differnt strokes .....bygones be bygones

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                  #38
                  It's either Whitaker or Pacquiao. I don't think Hagler is even close.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    This guy is clearly an alt and fast headed toward troll status. We'll see if the latter is his goal.
                    How am I troll when I'm stating that pacquaio has won more weights in separate divsions than anybody else and was voted fighter of the decade ....so if he done something that no fighter has ever done and he is southpaw ...what does that classify him as imo .....I think the trolls then you should look at yours truly....I'm curious when your next post is gonna be downgrading golovkn,or KOVALEV or pacquaio ..so who's the troll lol

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                      How am I troll when I'm stating that pacquaio has won more weights in separate divsions than anybody else and was voted fighter of the decade ....so if he done something that no fighter has ever done and he is southpaw ...what does that classify him as imo .....I think the trolls then you should look at yours truly....I'm curious when your next post is gonna be downgrading golovkn,or KOVALEV or pacquaio ..so who's the troll lol
                      Loser alt confirmed.

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