Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Manager Reveals The Terms For Stevenson Unification

[richardt]

You would get a bunch of friends together, dress up, and devote an entire evening to calling out a guy that you supposedly want nothing to do with? Well, maybe I'm asking the wrong crowd but people with lives don't waste time with shyt like that. It was a ****** statement and wishful thinking on the part of Kovalev fans who, for some reason, don't want him to fight a 39 year old champ with massive holes in his game. Maybe, if he was 10 years older, like Hopkins...

That's what I don't get about GGG and KKK fans. They get pissed about the idea of these guys facing real competition. Take a note from Fury fans, who were excited to see their guy go for the glory. That's a real champ.

Dude, you are talking to me, not fans of GGG and Kovalev. Second, I pointed out the drive was a few minutes to correct your statement. There is no need to talk about dressing up, getting with friends, the bottom line was he practically could walk to the arena....I would not exactly call that "travelling".

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You could tell stevenson instructed his goons to hold him back theatrically before he even got in there. It was the most obvious "hold me back bro" coward job ever broadcasted.

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You would get a bunch of friends together, dress up, and devote an entire evening to calling out a guy that you supposedly want nothing to do with? Well, maybe I'm asking the wrong crowd but people with lives don't waste time with shyt like that. It was a ****** statement and wishful thinking on the part of Kovalev fans who, for some reason, don't want him to fight a 39 year old champ with massive holes in his game. Maybe, if he was 10 years older, like Hopkins...

That's what I don't get about GGG and KKK fans. They get pissed about the idea of these guys facing real competition. Take a note from Fury fans, who were excited to see their guy go for the glory. That's a real champ.

Stevenson ducked the **** out of old hopkins, also ducked the **** out of pascal. Kovalev/Hopkins/Pascal are not friends but they all had the exact same story about Stevenson abruptly changing his terms at the last minute to get out of a fight.

he's a nobody and doesn't deserve a shot at kovalev unless its some 90-10 split or something. Kovalev is giving him charity by even mentioning him anymore.

[MrRolltide91]

In a perfect world, if boxing was the most important factor, then Kovalev and Stevenson fans would join together on this one and demand a shared broadcast.

Lol yep but some people are having network wars

[MrRolltide91]

1 umbrella is what ive been rooting for.

In the mean time i just let nsb argue networks

btw ive said it already but if this is ppv then i dont need it to happen

Didn't you say you don't like ppv?

[Chaos]

Kovalev's team resigned to HBO knowing the fight was out there. No one forced them to make that move then try to have Stevenson, a Haymon fighter, fight on HBO. Its like they are more concerned with making Haymon look bad than actually getting the fight done.

Also sounds like team Kovalev was a little shook considering they're bringing up Stevenson's people coming in the ring with him

LOL, ya kovalev and his guys were scared of the adonis clown show in their wannabee pimp outfits....sure budz.

[MC Hammer]

HBO made Stevenson, he has gone downhill since leaving, probably serve his career better to come back. Sounds like Stevenson is the one who might be shook.............Mosley got in the ring to call out Floyd...BY HIMSELF, Fury got in the ring to call out Wilder....BY HIMSELF...

Stevenson gets in the ring after being called a ducker.......with like 4 dudes dressed in wanna-be gangster apparel and has them hold him back.

Like Klimas said, Stevenson hasn't even fought on Showtime in 2 years, so I don't see why HBO would give an ounce on that at all.

No one gets in the ring and calls a guy out to throw punches right there so that is irrelevent. And since going to Haymon Stevenson has consistently made more money than Kovalev, whose only million dollar days were the b-hop and first Pascal right? Hell HBO's budget is stretched so thin that Bob is complaining about his fighter asking for PBC purses, so why should stevenson stay?

Stevenson has a team that has made him way more money than they were getting on the other side. Had Kovalev not let his team lock him into a ****** contract across the street when he could've immediately fought his mandatory in Stevenson THEN gone back, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[MC Hammer]

LOL, ya kovalev and his guys were scared of the adonis clown show in their wannabee pimp outfits....sure budz.

They won't let the fact that the guys came in the ring go will they? Sounds scary to me.

[HeroBando]

No one gets in the ring and calls a guy out to throw punches right there so that is irrelevent. And since going to Haymon Stevenson has consistently made more money than Kovalev, whose only million dollar days were the b-hop and first Pascal right? Hell HBO's budget is stretched so thin that Bob is complaining about his fighter asking for PBC purses, so why should stevenson stay?

Stevenson has a team that has made him way more money than they were getting on the other side. Had Kovalev not let his team lock him into a ****** contract across the street when he could've immediately fought his mandatory in Stevenson THEN gone back, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's not his team, its that Stevenson is from North America's Best boxing hometown Montreal and is Canada's only champ. He should be doing much better, not taking backseat to washed up noncontenders like Bute and Pascal who are still more popular

[Scipio2009]

A clandestine contract so secret that even Stevenson's long time promoter, Yvon Michel, didn't know about it?

Because if he did know about it, he would have at least mentioned it to Duva while he was negotiating terms with her, trying to make the fight, yeah?

This crap demonstrates how Haymon likes to do business, as if we didn't get it already.

I haven't said that Stevenson has a contract with Showtime, whether he does or doesn't, Showtime bet on him when HBO was unwilling to do so, and that decision, in the realm of normal people, would generally command some type of loyalty.

Kovalev-Stevenson isn't going to draw a $4m gate, in Vegas or New York (Kovalev barely sold 1k tickets for the Mohammedi fight, and Kathy Duva has never done any business in the Big Room at MSG). With the abysmal flop that Golovkin-Lemieux was (quibble about the details but the event did 100k-150k PPV buys), to project that Kovalev-Stevenson would be able to do 300k PPV buys @$60 a pop is a foolish notion. If those projections were even remotely close, Main Events would guarantee Stevenson $5m (to ease doubts about the projections) rather than just $2m (which is likely about where the fight revenues will end up, given the terms; $1m at the gate in MSG, ~$5m on PPV).

Yvon Michel isn't a fool; rather than sign a deal on bull**** projections, Michel called it what it was, and tried to put forward a path for the both of them to actually get close to those wild-eyed projections:

-Kovalev vs Stevenson does more business at the gate in Montreal at the Bell Centre than the fight does at any other venue on the planet (sans someone paying out a massive site fee).

-With HBO's darling, after three years of work, only able to do over 100k in his first PPV, the idea that Kovalev-Stevenson, in their first fight on PPV, would be able to triple that is ******. Understanding that, the logical way forward is to push the fight to as many potential customers as possible.

Showtime is in 28.5m homes and HBO is in 36.5m homes; you discount the overlap (homes with both HBO and Showtime) and you're looking at 45m-50m homes for HBO/Showtime to market the fight to (in addition to possible parlays through the PBC effort). whether they could convert 300k PPV buys from that combined 50m homes is up to the marketers of the fight, but they'd have a better shot to get there than if they were just pitching the fight to 36m homes.

use your brain.