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    #41
    Fury
    Klitschko
    Povetkin
    Wilder
    Ortiz
    Pulev
    Stiverne
    Jennings
    Joshua
    Glazkov

    I don't believe Glazkov beats anyone in the top ten.

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      #42
      Originally posted by From Russia View Post
      This Ortiz hysteria is funny as ****. He beat Jennings and everybody is now saying that he gonna stomp every top 10 HW. And yall make fun of GGG's fans, hahaahaha

      Here is my list:

      1. Fury
      2. Povetkin(cuz Sasha having a really nice run and Wlad just lost 10 rounds of 12 against Fury)
      3. Wlad
      4. Ortiz
      5. Wilder
      6. Takam
      7. Jennings
      8. Pulev
      9. Chagaev
      10. Joshua
      Why is Ortiz above Wilder?

      Pulev lower than some of those guys?

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        #43
        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        Why is Ortiz above Wilder?

        Pulev lower than some of those guys?
        For me Jennings is a better fighter than Stiverne(Wilder's best win) and Ortiz won in more impressive fashion, thats why Ortiz is above Wilder...

        I respect Pulev's skills, but his resume is not better than of others + he got brutally KO'ed by Wlad.

        Top 5 was pretty easy to pick, but everything after top 5 is just a matter of intepretation...

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          #44
          Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
          Yep, hopefully with Wlad slowly receding from the picture, we'll see less people queuing up for the big european pay day and actually fighting each other.



          I think Povetkin and possibly Wilder, if he uses his height advantage, both beat Ortiz. I'd like to see Ortiz v Chagaev and gauge where both men are at this stage in their careers. A lot of people forgetting Ortiz is old.



          Do you think, as things stand now, that AJ can beat Ortiz or Jennings or Povetkin?
          I personally think Joshua would beat Jennings or povetkin quite easily....ur talking about a really small heavyweight in Jennings coping with Joshua's brute strength and power not to mention his speed as for povetkin were talking about a fighter that was completely bossed by klitscko and sc****d by cruiserweight marco huck.....Ortiz for me is just the same unknown quantity as Joshua but I see a lot more talent in Joshua than I do in Ortiz .....and when Ortiz starts taking big shots from Joshua will he be able to handle them.....I'm sticking with Joshua to rule the division but let's wait and see ...wilder or fury will not handle Joshua or Ortiz in a years time guaranteed

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            #45
            Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
            I personally think Joshua would beat Jennings or povetkin quite easily....ur talking about a really small heavyweight in Jennings coping with Joshua's brute strength and power not to mention his speed as for povetkin were talking about a fighter that was completely bossed by klitscko and sc****d by cruiserweight marco huck.....Ortiz for me is just the same unknown quantity as Joshua but I see a lot more talent in Joshua than I do in Ortiz .....and when Ortiz starts taking big shots from Joshua will he be able to handle them.....I'm sticking with Joshua to rule the division but let's wait and see ...wilder or fury will not handle Joshua or Ortiz in a years time guaranteed
            I think AJ can rule the division, some 3-4 years down the line but not right now.

            Currently, I don't think he beats anyone, right now, in the hw top 10. He hasn't even fought a top 20 guys yet has he? And it's a pretty weak division.

            AJ has the most potential of any heavy today but he is far from challenging the best in the division.

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              #46
              Originally posted by From Russia View Post
              For me Jennings is a better fighter than Stiverne(Wilder's best win) and Ortiz won in more impressive fashion, thats why Ortiz is above Wilder...

              I respect Pulev's skills, but his resume is not better than of others + he got brutally KO'ed by Wlad.

              Top 5 was pretty easy to pick, but everything after top 5 is just a matter of intepretation...
              yeah that's quite true sadly

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                #47
                Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                I think AJ can rule the division, some 3-4 years down the line but not right now.

                Currently, I don't think he beats anyone, right now, in the hw top 10. He hasn't even fought a top 20 guys yet has he? And it's a pretty weak division.

                AJ has the most potential of any heavy today but he is far from challenging the best in the division.
                I think Whyte is actually a better fighter than most people give him credit for. I think he even beats Wilder--- same for AJ.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  I think AJ can rule the division, some 3-4 years down the line but not right now.

                  Currently, I don't think he beats anyone, right now, in the hw top 10. He hasn't even fought a top 20 guys yet has he? And it's a pretty weak division.

                  AJ has the most potential of any heavy today but he is far from challenging the best in the division.
                  I think 4 years is your way overestimating the experience gap lol...a year that's all he needs and I'm wiling to put a stake on it....lets talk about wilder here....he has faced very poor fighters since he has become champion duphaus and Molina would not last 7 rounds with joshua...wilder is trying to avoid his mandatory in povetkin and simply trying for fury because fury is weak chinned and as soon as someone clocks him cleanly on that chin I bet he go's out like a hookers redlght...all we have at the very top is fury, klitcko,wilder,povetkin and Ortiz and if you don't think joshua don't beat any of the other heavyweaights such as char or teper your gonna get woken up pretty shortly....experience only comes from stepping up your game and when he faces a fighter you consider top 10 and walks right through him then I want to see your reply to that.....I never look at a UK top 10 heavyweight list because we never had one...LEWIS is so far ahead of the rest it's not worth even debating....but then again I would rather have one heavyweight that would probably beat every other heavyweight in history in his prime than a list that includes Bruno or fury lol...I'll stick with just our lennox Lewis when it comes to all time heavies.....I have faith in joshua to take care of business when the times right...a years times he will be wilders number one mandatory and we will find out

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                    I think 4 years is your way overestimating the experience gap lol...a year that's all he needs and I'm wiling to put a stake on it....lets talk about wilder here....he has faced very poor fighters since he has become champion duphaus and Molina would not last 7 rounds with joshua...wilder is trying to avoid his mandatory in povetkin and simply trying for fury because fury is weak chinned and as soon as someone clocks him cleanly on that chin I bet he go's out like a hookers redlght...all we have at the very top is fury, klitcko,wilder,povetkin and Ortiz and if you don't think joshua don't beat any of the other heavyweaights such as char or teper your gonna get woken up pretty shortly....experience only comes from stepping up your game and when he faces a fighter you consider top 10 and walks right through him then I want to see your reply to that.....I never look at a UK top 10 heavyweight list because we never had one...LEWIS is so far ahead of the rest it's not worth even debating....but then again I would rather have one heavyweight that would probably beat every other heavyweight in history in his prime than a list that includes Bruno or fury lol...I'll stick with just our lennox Lewis when it comes to all time heavies.....I have faith in joshua to take care of business when the times right...a years times he will be wilders number one mandatory and we will find out
                    Look, we'll find out soon enough if AJ can beat the top guys...that's if Hearn and AJ are both confident enough to face them. I don't think they are. AJ himself has been very sensible and said that he needs to come along slowly, his own words. I like that. He understands his limitations.

                    He is much more mature than most men his age and most boxers with his level of experience. He understands where has to go and how to get there but also what needs to be done. I think that night against Whyte taught him a few things. Hearns has learned too.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      Look, we'll find out soon enough if AJ can beat the top guys...that's if Hearn and AJ are both confident enough to face them. I don't think they are. AJ himself has been very sensible and said that he needs to come along slowly, his own words. I like that. He understands his limitations.

                      He is much more mature than most men his age and most boxers with his level of experience. He understands where has to go and how to get there but also what needs to be done. I think that night against Whyte taught him a few things. Hearns has learned too.
                      Whyte would probably beat most heavyweights from rank 15 to 6 to be truthful...as for joshua being honest and truthful in terms of his progression of course he wants things to go the right way and learn his trade but that's also has something to do with his demeanour and he always shows respect in terms of comparing himself to the top heavyweights of the world...but let's look at the heavie weights around now......how could fury beat joshua ? He can't punch and his punch resistance is suspect to say the least...ok he pulled an illusion in beating klitchko in that ring...he never landed any decent shot and show boated and fumbled his way to a victory ....joshua would would pulverise fury and what ever money you want on a side bet...lets do it ....if you can't see the way joshua puts his punches together and how fast his handspeed is compared to the other heavies then I don't know what you can see....a years time I gurantee you joshua walks through every heavyweight in the division....the way joshua finsihed off whyte with the uppercut inside and at speed was very very impressive for 6'6 247 pound heavyweight......the next year joshua will become the most feared man in the division....but your right lets find out and see who is right ...should be interesting soul

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