you are right, and everybody knows this, the canelo fight is more important than the title for GGG, nothing wrong with that, it just doesnt suit some fans agenda... im cool with that by the way, just stop the lies...
Based on what? Did Canelo tell Golovkin 'you either get the belt OR a fight with me, not both'? From what this article sounds like, they're offering Golovkin both the belt, the fight and the money if he waits 4-5 months.
What's the difference, if there's going to be a guaranteed date this year, Golovkin's getting the belt regardless. Financially it works out better for both sides this way as there'll be a better build-up to the fight, similar to Hopkins/Dela Hoya. Golovkin gets to have his cake & eat it too.
Exactly. Some people just don't get it. If they agree to fight in sept NOT a step aside fee but a actual contract for a fight in sept then everybody wins. Fans get the fight next year. GGG has the security of knowing he will get the fight he needs and get's an extra fight to build up his fanbase. Canelo gets a extra fight against a middleweight to get his feet wet at 160, both guys collect an extra check and now the PPV in Sept is bigger then a PPV in May. Only a idiot can't see the logic in this. If someone came to you and said I can give X amount of money for this fight in May. Or I can give you potentially double the money if you fight in Sept. Which would you take?
Only ones upset are crybaby Cotto fans and GGG haters.
Stepping aside three times now? He's closer than ever to unification with the winner of Lee/Saunders. GGG can take his belt from Caneko and If Lee wins he can unify and become undisputed. Allowing Canelo to keep the belt and wait until September only delays unification. What's so ****** about the truth? #allthebelts
he's not any closer to Lee/Saunders winner, because that fight hasnt happened yet. If Saunders wins, everyone knows he wont fight GGG, because he already said so. And if Lee wins theres a decent chance Dibella steers him to Jacobs, so who knows how it plays out.
I dont like delaying it anymore than you do. Probably less. But he's taking the better of 2 bad choices, so I cant be mad about it. He cant put a gun to ginger's head and force him to fight, so if he can get the fight made for sept and get his IBF mando out of the way in the meantime, I can live with that.....
no you gtfo... everyone was talkin all that shit.... winner fight ggg or be stripped blah blah blah..... including team ggg saying that they want the belt next of the winner more blah blah blah
all of a sudden the winner isn't going to fight ggg next and he's not gonna be stripped.....
yes but I was referring to team ggg saying they want the winner cuz they want the belt etc... just to go back on their own word
my thing is what happened to winner must fight NEXT or be stripped!?
You're not a fanboy, though
As for the topic, I have no problem with that as long as they will fight in September, and I think they will. This fight gonna be huge, let it marinate for a couple of months.
I didn't expect the fight to happen in May anyway.
and if he forced a strippage you'd be right here yapping about how he wont "dare to be great" and how he'd rather win titles in a board room instead of the ring, and blah blah blah.
up until last weekend, there were 3 relevant fights for GGG in 2016.
Johnson IBF mando
Canelo
Lee/Saunders winner
Sure I preferred Canelo first, but in reality I was fine with those 3 guys in any order. Now obviously Jacobs has inserted himself into the conversation, but it remains to be seen how the WBA will resolve their mando situation, and also the Haymon - HBO issue figures in also, so Jacobs isnt a real conversation at the moment, at least not until the WBA convention next week.....
and fyi if it were me, I'd force a strippage. But it isnt me, so what I think doesnt matter
like i said i have no problem with the build up for this fight,i will rather get this fight at 160 or close to that in september than to get it at 155 in may (canelo gets more credit after beating GGG)... ggg fans should also like this option better, now ggg has every right to say "160 next or no fight" cant complain for that, but youll have ggg fans calling a duck on canelo for trying to fight at 155 , a weight ggg says he can make easy...
after all this is the better option IMO, but still goes against the BS some ggg fans and his team said in the past...
he's not any closer to Lee/Saunders winner, because that fight hasnt happened yet. If Saunders wins, everyone knows he wont fight GGG, because he already said so. And if Lee wins theres a decent chance Dibella steers him to Jacobs, so who knows how it plays out.
I dont like delaying it anymore than you do. Probably less. But he's taking the better of 2 bad choices, so I cant be mad about it. He cant put a gun to ginger's head and force him to fight, so if he can get the fight made for sept and get his IBF mando out of the way in the meantime, I can live with that.....
OK so you agree he's delaying it.
From the way it was explained to me on here the other day, WBA regular vs WBO champ isn't considered a unification so Jacobs will have to fight his mandatory next, which might be GGG, the WBA will decide next week. WBA president and directors can call a mandatory between super & regular champ.
Based on what? Did Canelo tell Golovkin 'you either get the belt OR a fight with me, not both'? From what this article sounds like, they're offering Golovkin both the belt, the fight and the money if he waits 4-5 months.
Why wouldn't he take that?
look, i have no problem with this agreement if it comes true, but lets face it, this is the third time ggg takes a step aside fee, that doesnt sound like a guy that only cares about the titles... im fine with that, fighters get titles in order to make the money fights, but lets not forget what has been said on the past by GGGs team and fans...
Exactly. Some people just don't get it. If they agree to fight in sept NOT a step aside fee but a actual contract for a fight in sept then everybody wins. Fans get the fight next year. GGG has the security of knowing he will get the fight he needs and get's an extra fight to build up his fanbase. Canelo gets a extra fight against a middleweight to get his feet wet at 160, both guys collect an extra check and now the PPV in Sept is bigger then a PPV in May. Only a idiot can't see the logic in this. If someone came to you and said I can give X amount of money for this fight in May. Or I can give you potentially double the money if you fight in Sept. Which would you take?
Only ones upset are crybaby Cotto fans and GGG haters.
Actually Golovkin may get 2 fights before Canelo. Rafael and some others have said he'll fight March/February and again in May/June. HBO just approved Roman Gonzalez/Giovanni Segura for February 6th, more than likely GB's Tureano Johnson will fight Golovkin then in San Antonio, TX and they'll use that to kick off the Golovkin/Alvarez promotion.
Then there was talk of a possible double header with Alvarez in May. I don't think Golovkin would sit out from February to September, it's not his style.
I would love to see Alvarez fight the winner of Saunders/Lee in a unification fight to build momentum. That's exactly what Dela Hoya did prior to the Hopkins fight, and don't think Oscar and Bernard (ironically enough) aren't thinking it.
All assuming the fight does get agreed to today and not some bs like Alvarez taking the Diamond belt and telling GGG off.
look, i have no problem with this agreement if it comes true, but lets face it, this is the third time ggg takes a step aside fee, that doesnt sound like a guy that only cares about the titles... im fine with that, fighters get titles in order to make the money fights, but lets not forget what has been said on the past by GGGs team and fans...
And in the meantime he already unified with the IBF and probably WBO is next so whats your problem?
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