Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux: Cowards at 122 Won't Face This Stallion!

[elgu]

The difference is Loma v Walters was supposed to happen next. Then, Walters missed weight. That didn't mean Walters wouldn't make weight if they signed the fight. It was always going to be before rigo v Loma. So now suddenly rigo has to happen first.

You yourself never suggested a rigo v Loma fight before Loma v Walters unless I missed it. So you want to alter plans just because arum and Loma think rigo is easier than Walters?

Loma hid behind Walters not having a belt to avoid fighting him. Then, when fans laughed at the names being kicked around instead, he and arum came up with rigo. Then fans responded, rightfully so, by pointing out that Loma was asking rigo to do what he was trying to avoid - fighting a bigger man.

I want Loma vs Walters but it's not fair to accuse Loma of ducking, at least not yet. Fighters have the duty to fight the best in their division but they don't have to move up in weight and go look for them. Loma and Walters were both at 126.

Walters failed to make weight. Loma doesn't have to go looking for walters at 130, Walters screwed up. I think those 2 will eventually fight at 135.

[The Big Dunn]

so you expect loma to fight a super feather while he still has the body of a featherweight? that would be a disadvantage. better to wait until he can make the full move to 130 and train for the weight


we were expecting it until walters messed it up. he can't make 126, his next fight is at 130. and even if he claimed he could make 126, why should lomachenko believe him when he's already failed to make weight once? and he'd probably just drain himself if he made a sincere attempt to hit 126 anyway

it's lomachenko's prerogative to decide when he wants to move up and walters will just have to wait. in the meantime he should try and pick up a strap - uchiyama called him out lately and that would be an excellent fight

With all due respect, Walters not making weight shouldn't have changed the plan for him to fight Walters imo. You didn't have to make it at 130, you could've made 128 for example.

Trusting Walters to make weight? That's an odd way to put it. Walters missed weight once in his career that I know of. he actually tried to make it to 126 after the weigh in, unlike other pros, not that it absolves him of missing weight.

I don't want Loma to go up and come back, I just wanted him to fight Walters next, as we expected. Just stop hiding behind missing weight and unification. And please don't do a Dirk and pretend Loma v rigorous was a fight we were expecting.

[NEETzsche]

I don't want Loma to go up and come back, I just wanted him to fight Walters next, as we expected. Just stop hiding behind missing weight and unification. And please don't do a Dirk and pretend Loma v rigorous was a fight we were expecting.

"hiding"? i'd love to see loma-walters, but it makes no sense for a fighter to move up in weight before he physically needs to or runs out of options in his current division. i want loma to exhaust his options at 126 and then move up (which is nothing more or less than what i expect from every other fighter in the sport). it's not lomachenko's fault that walters is no longer in his division

[OnePunch]

Ward has been vocally calling out GGG, it's GGG that backtracked. Ward stayed at 168 for him but lil G never came. Now he'll be going after Kovalev instead.

Rigondeaux has said he'll meet Loma at a cw of 124, Loma didn't want it.

sorry, but saying "hey lets fight sometime next year maybe" is not a call out.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

With all due respect, Walters not making weight shouldn't have changed the plan for him to fight Walters imo. You didn't have to make it at 130, you could've made 128 for example.

Trusting Walters to make weight? That's an odd way to put it. Walters missed weight once in his career that I know of. he actually tried to make it to 126 after the weigh in, unlike other pros, not that it absolves him of missing weight.

I don't want Loma to go up and come back, I just wanted him to fight Walters next, as we expected. Just stop hiding behind missing weight and unification. And please don't do a Dirk and pretend Loma v rigorous was a fight we were expecting.

Who's we? LOL.... Speak for yourself coward.

Why don't you want to see both Loma-Rigo and Loma-Walters?

[The Big Dunn]

Why are you acting like there's some universal plan?

Lomachenko vs. Walters was supposed to happen but Walters ***ed up and missed weight. That's on Walters, not Lomachenko.

Walters ***ed up "the plans". Not Lomachenko. Not Arum.

Stop trying to speak for "the fans" when its your own pathetic agenda that your pushing here.

Walters missed weight for one fight. He paid for it with his belt as he should. There is no reason the Walters v Loma fight was off the table because Walters missed weight. No reason for delays.

What agenda Dirk? Loma v Walters was the plan according to HBO and arum. Loma v rigo was a face save call out to distract from Walters. I wasn't the only one mad.

If Loma v rigo was in discussion when Walters v Loma was then you'd have a point.

[NEETzsche]

if frampton/quigg won't face rigo in 2016, then rigo should move up and face loma. if loma can't get a good fight at 126 in 2016, then he should move up and face walters. but first things first, they have to settle business in their current divisions. it's not as if walters doesn't have some excellent options at 130 to keep us occupied in the meantime

[The Big Dunn]

"hiding"? i'd love to see loma-walters, but it makes no sense for a fighter to move up in weight before he physically needs to or runs out of options in his current division. i want loma to exhaust his options at 126 and then move up (which is nothing more or less than what i expect from every other fighter in the sport). it's not lomachenko's fault that walters is no longer in his division

No one said it was Loma's fault. I have no problem with you wanting him to exhaust all options at 126. My point is the Walters v Loma fight was being built and I don't think Walters missing weight should have taken it off the table.

I think arum is worried Walters will beat Loma the same way rigo beat donaire so that's why I said avoiding.

Who's we? LOL.... Speak for yourself coward.

Why don't you want to see both Loma-Rigo and Loma-Walters?

When did I say I didn't want to see both. I said Walters v Loma was supposed to happen. No one, not even you, was taking about Loma v rigo. Now. Just to argue, you are pretending Loma v rigo was a fight being planned and rigo avoided it.

The truth is Loma made a desperate attempt to save himself from the criticism he was receiving from fans for trying to fight others than Walters. you think that means rigo has to say yes and his refusing is the same as GGG v ward. Ok, there are similarities, but it's not exactly the same.

I am being hypocritical to a degree and admitted it in my initial post. That said, Loma needs to man up and fight walters. Do that then fight the face saving call out.

Had Walters made weight, would rigo v Loma even be discussed?

[The Big Dunn]

I want Loma vs Walters but it's not fair to accuse Loma of ducking, at least not yet. Fighters have the duty to fight the best in their division but they don't have to move up in weight and go look for them. Loma and Walters were both at 126.

Walters failed to make weight. Loma doesn't have to go looking for walters at 130, Walters screwed up. I think those 2 will eventually fight at 135.

I never said or implied Loma was ducking anyone. I think Bob and the tr matchmaker do not think Loma's style is effective in with bigger guys.

[The Big Dunn]

if frampton/quigg won't face rigo in 2016, then rigo should move up and face loma. if loma can't get a good fight at 126 in 2016, then he should move up and face walters. but first things first, they have to settle business in their current divisions. it's not as if walters doesn't have some excellent options at 130 to keep us occupied in the meantime

Which fight is more difficult for Loma IYO, Walters (126, 128, 130) or rigo (126, 124)?