I'm still puzzled as to how Floyd managed to retire undefeated

[JStill Unbiased]

You know you're the best, when the BIG fight this weekend is being labeled as "the best fighting the best" and you beat both guys and the promtor ahahahahahahhahahhahaha moved up in weight and took all 3 of their titles. Applau this weekend's festivities and proceed to tell me how Floyd's wins don't mean anything lmfao

[DeandreXI]

I'm a realist. Floyd has full of holes. That's just the truth. To be the greatest is to have no holes in your résumé. Too many holes to plug. Sad truth. And he has only himself to blame for it.

There are no holes, just people from other fan base discrediting the man's work which is understandable. Floyd had an illustrious career, just let it be homie.

[imperial1]

Thanks.

The guys you mentioned were the kings of their time. Floyd is the king of this era.
My point from the onset was Pacquiao fans shouldn't try to discredit Floyd's wins because Pacquiao's wins above 135 would be easily discredited with the same criteria.

You're obviously a pac fan because it hit a nerve when I said it hence why you threw on your Pac cape and came to the rescue. Your argument has now shifted to past kings and not Pacquiao which is fine because Floyd should only be compared to those in the golden age of boxing because he's head and shoulders above everyone in this era.

Peace fam

Honestly I'm not either a Mayweather fan or a Pacquio fan those guys were just small guys who ruled a weak ere I always liked the heavyweights lhw' and SMW maybe a few ww's but that's it. And it didn't hit a nerve I just followed both of their careers and Manny took more risks than the so called king of this era ..And this is why I go at Floyd fans why would I compare a guy who cherry picked and took PED's to the legends of the golden era when he never faced an elite fighter in their prime like they did ..If he was head and shoulders above everyone else then he would have been a fighter of the decade and recognized as such.as opposed to these self proclamations but hey keep trying to convince people other wise I just wasn't buying what he was selling ..

[Vadrigar.]

bump........

[onetwopunch]

Throughout history all brash, c*cky, arrogant champions have eventually been humbled after accumulating a long undefeated streak. All the way from Muhammad Ali to Mike Tyson to Roy Jones and most recently Ronda Rousey.

How the hell did this sneaky ****er slip through the cracks while continuing to remain so odious?

- Because Floyd was extremely cautious, In the ring and outside of the ring, with his decesion's and who to fight and when to fight them. He was smart. He saw how all the other greats made there mistakes and he learned from that.

[Spoon23]

There are no holes, just people from other fan base discrediting the man's work which is understandable. Floyd had an illustrious career, just let it be homie.

Lol

The easy road..

Cherry picking, picking on 2 divisions lower than you, peds, pillow gloves, fights only in Vegas, xyclocain, waits until opponent is out of prime, biased judges, biased referees, hugging, elbowing as much as he wants since it's Vegas baby!, doesn't show fight weight to create the illusion his small but actually bigger than he is perceived, gaming the system, bought USADA for 150k..etc..

The easy road.. Too many holes in any debate from here on out. It won't change. No one to blame but Floyd himself. He chose the easy road..

Result his résumé is pfffft...

[Spoon23]

Honestly I'm not either a Mayweather fan or a Pacquio fan those guys were just small guys who ruled a weak ere I always liked the heavyweights lhw' and SMW maybe a few ww's but that's it. And it didn't hit a nerve I just followed both of their careers and Manny took more risks than the so called king of this era ..And this is why I go at Floyd fans why would I compare a guy who cherry picked and took PED's to the legends of the golden era when he never faced an elite fighter in their prime like they did ..If he was head and shoulders above everyone else then he would have been a fighter of the decade and recognized as such.as opposed to these self proclamations but hey keep trying to convince people other wise I just wasn't buying what he was selling ..

Yes. Spot on. Greatness is about taking risk head on. Facing adversity as it comes. The greats of the game did that. Sadly, Floyd took the safe route, hence, that's all we can go for him.. That's all she wrote.

He chose to play it safe that's not a mark of a true Atg.

[Real King Kong]

Spoon -

You continue to post false information. 750ml is NOT illegal for NSAC. Facts are facts. Please stop lying.

You again don't address any of my points because the facts are not on your side. I asked you to name one welterweight with a better resume from 2006-2015 and you can't.

"Greatness don't take the easy road," etc is empty rhetoric. You have no argument. You can't name a single welterweight from the last ten years that took a harder road and won.

So if your position is that Floyd wasn't great, he was still less "not great" than anybody else. No matter how you slice it, he was the best of his era.

Which you can't dispute. So you continue to duck the facts and hide behind empty innuendo that I am exposing with ease.

You can't win this one because you have no case.

Lol @ you trying to have a rational argument with spoon.

[imperial1]

Yes. Spot on. Greatness is about taking risk head on. Facing adversity as it comes. The greats of the game did that. Sadly, Floyd took the safe route, hence, that's all we can go for him.. That's all she wrote.

He chose to play it safe that's not a mark of a true Atg.

For a guy with all those talents he should have some memorable performances and shouldn't have resulted yo being a PED cheat but he conned the public the good thing not everyone brought what he sold ..And you couldn't hit the nail harder atg's don't chose the path of least resistance ! But his fans will try to argue other wise I mean some people actually think Gatti was a hard fight for him

[Real King Kong]

here is a list of fighters that should of been on that resume that would possibly be a no brainer for floyd's ATG

-casamayor @130
-freitas @135
-williams @147lbs
-margarito @147lbs
-mayorga @ 147lbs
-forrest @ 147lbs prior to mayorga KO

Casa and freitas didn't want anything to do with him at 130. He could have fought williams or marg. He wasn't at welter when forrest was top dog and mayorgo had already lost to spinks and moved up b4 floyd got there. You can criticize the guy for not fighting certain opposition, but at least make it rational in the sense that those fights could have been made.