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    Originally posted by turnedup View Post
    Yes because somehow a male boxer has the same training or expertise at both the use of kicks and punches...that makes plenty of sense buddy. I love when folks leech onto a different set of circumstances to say "SEE". Listen she got beaten bad but she got beaten bad by someone trained to do so..it all comes back to being trained for that. No boxer is trained for that, same reason they can't make the transition to MMA or vice versa.



    Again she lost to someone TRAINED for this, boxers are not trained for this..if they were you'd see a whole lot of "my career" is in the skids boxers making the switch. Nobody is discrediting Holly because she is actually trained at this. She took the space Ronda needed to execute away from her and Ronda couldn't go low on her either. There is a difference between being able to box and being able to box and legitimately protecting your lower body from any number of moves that can wipe you out but fair enough she lost and folks will gloat as if she lost to a tomato can.
    I've tried to be patient with you, but I've gotten fed up with what is either your desire to troll, or your total and complete UFC indoctrination, or your unabashed imbecility. First, a good fighter adapts to any situation and any fighting style. Secondly, if you check YouTube, you will find videos where RR's fighting prowess concering Floyd Mayweather Jr and Holly Holm were discussed before the fight took place. Some will spell out almost perfectly what to expect from HH against RR as well as predict what RR's fight strategy. That advice would work for any skilled boxer/fighter against RR especially if said boxer/fighter has superior strength to RR. Now, no state commission will sanction male vs female fights, so you are going to have to think this through and arrive at a conclusion as to whether a male fighter, who has at least the punching power of HH, but very likely much, much, much, much, more combines that punching with superior strength, footwork, fight instinct, and ability to impose his/her will upon RR. A highly successful and experienced boxer can read his/her opponent's every move, and the boxer will adjust accordingly both to negate his/her opponent's moves and also to tweak his/her offense. Said boxer can not only see (using eyes) to read his/her opponents moves, but also said boxer will, when the fighters' bodies are in close contact, thought use of the sense of touch, read his/her opponent's movements and adjust accordingly. For these reasons, in addition to natural fighting instinct which most successful boxers/fighters have, RR's opponents do not have to be trained to avoid kicks as a karate sense, or a kickboxing coach might teach. Such techniques may be a nice addition to the boxer/fighter's skill set, but that doesn't mean that the boxer/fighter cannot win and win in a completely dominant fashion against RR. Kids used to join scouting to learn to build fires, but far more kids who never joined scouting have learned to build fires than those who did so during their scouting lessons. So, I stand behind everything I've said about RR and her fighting skills. I stand behind everything I've said about DW and RR's bragging concerning her guaranteed ability to beat Floyd and Cain. I stand behind the statement that fit and strong male senior citizen, who grew up as both athlete and fighter, can and would beat and defeat RR without having any formal MMA training specifically designed to prepare them for RR. Those seniors who are sickly, crippled, or let's just say feeble are not whom I am talking about. Otherwise, those seniors beat RR - no question about it. Now I expect you to stop pestering me about this subject until you fulfill the assignment which I gave you. Provide proof positive that RR has fought and beaten men equivalent to Floyd Jr. and Cain Velasquez. If that proves impossible, find and provide evidence that RR has beaten experienced male boxers or mma fighters in sanctioned competition. If that proves impossible, provide evidence that RR has fought and beaten experienced male boxers and mma fighters on the club level. If that proves impossible, find and provide evidence of RR fighting and beating strong and fit male senior citizens who grew up as an athlete and fighter. And if that proves impossible, then I never - ever again want to hear you declaring that RR can beat Floyd Jr., or Cain, or experienced male boxers or mma fighters, or even strong and fit male senior citizens who grew up an athlete and fighter. P.S. Maybe if you wish upon a star tonight you will be able to relive your childhood. For the sake of mankind, do it.

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      Originally posted by Mr.Daddy View Post
      I've tried to be patient with you, but I've gotten fed up with what is either your desire to troll, or your total and complete UFC indoctrination, or your unabashed imbecility. First, a good fighter adapts to any situation and any fighting style. Secondly, if you check YouTube, you will find videos where RR's fighting prowess concering Floyd Mayweather Jr and Holly Holm were discussed before the fight took place. Some will spell out almost perfectly what to expect from HH against RR as well as predict what RR's fight strategy. That advice would work for any skilled boxer/fighter against RR especially if said boxer/fighter has superior strength to RR. Now, no state commission will sanction male vs female fights, so you are going to have to think this through and arrive at a conclusion as to whether a male fighter, who has at least the punching power of HH, but very likely much, much, much, much, more combines that punching with superior strength, footwork, fight instinct, and ability to impose his/her will upon RR. A highly successful and experienced boxer can read his/her opponent's every move, and the boxer will adjust accordingly both to negate his/her opponent's moves and also to tweak his/her offense. Said boxer can not only see (using eyes) to read his/her opponents moves, but also said boxer will, when the fighters' bodies are in close contact, thought use of the sense of touch, read his/her opponent's movements and adjust accordingly. For these reasons, in addition to natural fighting instinct which most successful boxers/fighters have, RR's opponents do not have to be trained to avoid kicks as a karate sense, or a kickboxing coach might teach. Such techniques may be a nice addition to the boxer/fighter's skill set, but that doesn't mean that the boxer/fighter cannot win and win in a completely dominant fashion against RR. Kids used to join scouting to learn to build fires, but far more kids who never joined scouting have learned to build fires than those who did so during their scouting lessons. So, I stand behind everything I've said about RR and her fighting skills. I stand behind everything I've said about DW and RR's bragging concerning her guaranteed ability to beat Floyd and Cain. I stand behind the statement that fit and strong male senior citizen, who grew up as both athlete and fighter, can and would beat and defeat RR without having any formal MMA training specifically designed to prepare them for RR. Those seniors who are sickly, crippled, or let's just say feeble are not whom I am talking about. Otherwise, those seniors beat RR - no question about it. Now I expect you to stop pestering me about this subject until you fulfill the assignment which I gave you. Provide proof positive that RR has fought and beaten men equivalent to Floyd Jr. and Cain Velasquez. If that proves impossible, find and provide evidence that RR has beaten experienced male boxers or mma fighters in sanctioned competition. If that proves impossible, provide evidence that RR has fought and beaten experienced male boxers and mma fighters on the club level. If that proves impossible, find and provide evidence of RR fighting and beating strong and fit male senior citizens who grew up as an athlete and fighter. And if that proves impossible, then I never - ever again want to hear you declaring that RR can beat Floyd Jr., or Cain, or experienced male boxers or mma fighters, or even strong and fit male senior citizens who grew up an athlete and fighter. P.S. Maybe if you wish upon a star tonight you will be able to relive your childhood. For the sake of mankind, do it.

      STFU..you tried to be patient with me..stop acting like you are some sort of professor writing book chapters and shhhh. Sit down and move the fk on, I have. You must be batshhh crazy talking about wishing on stars and reliving shhh. Seriously stfu and *** off.

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        i hate to kick a man while he's down but turned up seriously?


        WTF


        whooooohahahahahahaha

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          turnedup looking like a straight up clown. Save yourself the embarrassment.

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            Oscar is still salty his blueprint to beating Floyd didn't work for Canelo.

            .

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              People are still latched onto this notion that once ronda gets a hold of someone it's all over. I've trained quite a bit in mma and I'm telling you it's much easier to defend against judo throws and upper body take downs than it is to defend against wrestling style take downs where someone shoots on your legs, which ronda does not do. Alot of what they do in judo is dependent on the opponents gi for grip and leverage and is very hard to execute agaist someone who is stronger or intentionally keeps their hips back and their weight down. There's a reason you don't see judo throws much in men's mma...cuz they don't work unless you're either alot stronger, the person you're fighting is inexperienced or they just straight up get caught sleeping.

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                Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                steveucnlive: Hey, as Floyd fans( and himself) like to say( regarding Rousey beating up her BF): if there was no video, it didn't happen. So there..

                steveucnlive: Plus, Ronda Rousey made the Cover of Ring ****zine, which I thought was splendid. Another huge step for feminism....

                steveucnlive: Ronda Rousey is an anti- domestic violence and feminist( and she'll kick your ass), Im on the bandwagon...
                He is pathetic. Like Freddie Roach and Oscar De La Hoya when it comes to predictions. All 3 of them are pathetic.

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                  I have a kickboxing background and wrested in HS. So I guess that means I'd beat the **** out of Golovkin, Pacquiao, Ward, Kovalev, etc... in an MMA match, because they can't defend from my takedowns and kicks right?

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                    look at Floyd f@gs celebrating as if it was Floyd that koed rousey similar to when they celebrated jmm koing pac..you pathetic ****s

                    can Floyd kick like holm?

                    ronda chokes Floyd into submission you ****ers

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                      Originally posted by danceswithfire View Post
                      look at Floyd f@gs celebrating as if it was Floyd that koed rousey similar to when they celebrated jmm koing pac..you pathetic ****s

                      can Floyd kick like holm?

                      ronda chokes Floyd into submission you ****ers
                      I see this loss affected you greatly.

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