Comments Thread For: Mayweather Claims Conspiracy To Create a White Star

[-Kev-]

You better hope Murray doesn't get stretched

They're really banking on Murray beating Abraham. You can already see right through them. They have a plan A and a plan B in case Abraham loses to Murray or beats Murray. Plan A, brag about how GGG's best win went up in weight and beat the #1 ranked fighter there and one of Ward's best win, which in turn makes GGG superior. Plan B, Abraham beat Murray, well GGG ruined Murray, he was coming up in weight, wasn't ready.

With that said, GGG-Ward feud aside, I like this fight. If Abraham doesn't come in there 100% with his A+ game, Murray can take him to school. So Abraham better take Murray as serious as he would take any other good fighter. Because Murray is a very good fighter. If Murray wins this fight, to me it won't be any upset, I can definitely expect Murray to take the W from Abraham. But it's a 50-50 fight for me. Unless Abraham comes in beast mode and just manhandles Murray, that's what would shock me, if Abraham clearly beats Murray.

[ukbox]

They're really banking on Murray beating Abraham. You can already see right through them. They have a plan A and a plan B in case Abraham loses to Murray or beats Murray. Plan A, brag about how GGG's best win went up in weight and beat the #1 ranked fighter there and one of Ward's best win, which in turn makes GGG superior. Plan B, Abraham beat Murray, well GGG ruined Murray, he was coming up in weight, wasn't ready.

With that said, GGG-Ward feud aside, I like this fight. If Abraham doesn't come in there 100% with his A+ game, Murray can take him to school. So Abraham better take Murray as serious as he would take any other good fighter. Because Murray is a very good fighter. If Murray wins this fight, to me it won't be any upset, I can definitely expect Murray to take the W from Abraham. But it's a 50-50 fight for me. Unless Abraham comes in beast mode and just manhandles Murray, that's what would shock me, if Abraham clearly beats Murray.

Neither Abraham nor Murray are elite, Murray's an over achiever in the same way Froch is.
Abraham is 1 dimensional, Murrays tough, that's it. Neither does anything exceptionally well.
It's a good fight because they appear evenly matched.

[aboutfkntime]

Yes I have said GGG needs to step it up and have said his competition isn't that great. Anyways unifying a division is needed and is an accomplishment but for what I think about him I expect a lot out of him. Floyd never totally unified a division. Listen I'm not a part of this fanboy craze that has gripped the new generation of boxing fans. I call it down the middle. In harder on the fighters I think are great or have potential to be great. That's what a true fan is about. Just because I can be hard on a certain fighter doesn't mean I can't be hard on others.

But yes GGG needs to step up his game and I've said it before that he needs to.

True, but lets not ignore the obvious.

He was CLEARLY the best fighter in TWO divisions.

Just like Golovkin is CLEARLY the best middleweight now.

Lets not get too caught up in semantics and ignore the obvious.

Ward > the Cotto/Canelo winner, in terms of accomplishment.

[aboutfkntime]

I am not sure. Floyd has sold millions of PPV.

The heel always sells more. Look at The Rock now earning as much as Oscar winning actors.

If a white star was really wanted, then Wlad would be promoted a lot more.

People want to see wars or power. I don't care if you love boxing or not, I personally feel Floyd at 130 was more exciting than now, even if I appreciate skills.

I love knock downs and seeing people hurt.

Hmmm..... that is a fair point ?

I think ?

Be interested to hear what other folks have to say on that.

[LacedUp]

So you prefer good fights over great fights?

You don't want to see Golovkin challenged? You'd rather he fester at Middleweight.

The guy is almost 34 but **** lets keep him at 160 for the Andy Lee or Billy Joe Saunders mega-fights lol

Cotto/Canelo is a better fight than Ward, the others no.

And yes I would like to see him challenged. As I would Ward, so perfectly reasonable that Ward fights Kovalev and GGG fights Cotto/Canelo.

No conspiracy there. Saying it's only fair to ask GGG to go up in weight is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

He isn't even a big MW and Ward has problems making SMW. Ward is the one saying he'd fight at heavyweight.

So I don't see the problem.

[aboutfkntime]

Paul Williams was class
He never got the Floyd fight though eh??
Its them cracker ass crackers fault for that too.

Nearly, he lost to Quintana, avenged it, then moved up to 154.

[LacedUp]

so how do you feel about GGG fighting Froch & Chavez Jr at 168 but Ward at 164???

Is he fighting Ward at 164? I didn't know that.

I honestly also don't care. But fighters should fight at full weights if it's for a belt.

Now, Chaves jr and Froch are more established than GGG ratings/PPV wise, so they have the call over him.

Hardly anyone knows who Andre Ward even is.

[aboutfkntime]

Oh **** man, the alt account accusation, between that & the racist "everybodys against the black man "u got this locked down. Unbeatable argument there fella, touch?br /> Haha ya numpty

Uh no, I definitely think you pulled out your alt to make insensitive comments on this contentious thread

But hey, could be wrong

[ukbox]

Nearly, he lost to Quintana, avenged it, then moved up to 154.

Floyd never fought at 154 did he
Williams moved up to get fights, he was always adamant he'd make 147
Never got the Floyd fight though
Damn whitey's

[LacedUp]

Pretty much proving the point. When have opponents been rejected like that?

HBO have rejected a few potential Ward opponents that would never get rejected for Golovkin. And now the commission suddenly rejects a fight because it's a mismatch?

The guy they rejected was ranked in the top 10 of the WBA at 168. Why is that a "mismatch" but Golovkin can fight guys like Adama and Willie Munroe without a hitch?

Proven what?

It was rejected by the commission, not HBO. So what you're saying is completely false. HBO accepted one of the most horrible mismatches in recent memory.

Lol you mention Adama and Munroe - You might want to go and check the license fee for those fights and do the same with Ward vs Rodriguez.

The value for money is completely different.

He was not ranked in the top 10 by the WBA Stop that right there. He wasn't even ranked in the top 15 and neither is Alexander Brand. Those two shameless mismatches could never EVER be compared to Munroe or Adama.

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