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    #81
    I think that Mayweather would have been a stylistic nightmare match up for Roberto Duran because Floyd had all the physical advantages over him plus he was a safety first defensive fighter who love to potshot and stick and move.

    The only chance I would give Duran if Floyd decided to stand and trade toe to toe with him. Then he will be fighting Duran's fight because Roberto was a much a harder puncher than Mayweather.

    However, other than that Roberto would have been at Money's mercy with his stick and move style. His elusiveness and upper body movement would have caused him serious problems because Duran hadn't a clue on how to cut off the ring.

    All one has to do is go back and watch the "No Mas" and the Wilfred Benitez bout for reference, just to understand what I am talking about.

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      #82
      If Floyd wants to be TBE he needs to take some risks. For starters he needs to be an underdog in a fight. Being favourite in all his fights is not telling me how good he is, it is telling me he isn't fighting anyone anyone good. Fighting smaller guys like Pac where you have all the physical advantages in reach, height and they're coming off of kos doesn't impress me or any historian.

      Duran was competitive with the great Hagler. Floyd needs to show me he can be competitive with GGG at 160. As for who would win between Floyd and Duran. Duran was a bigger version of Pac. And without a bad shoulder Duran would beat Floyd, just like Pac would.
      Floyd never fights people at their best. Canelo now would give Floyd a harder fight than the one Floyd fought at 152, so would todays Miguel.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 10-23-2015, 04:24 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        go beat off to your gay scat **** of men in burkhas, you ***ually frustrated arab.
        At least I don't fück my own sister like ur honkey ass.

        Fäggot ass cracka.

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          #84
          Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
          Depends. The Mayweather that beat Chico beats Duran p4p. That Mayweather could move and frustrate him but also have good offence and punch output. It could be similar to the 'no mas' fight. The fight evens up the older Mayweather gets and his willingness to throw punches become more sparse, the more chance Duran would have.
          Duran that beat Sugar Ray beats any version of Mayweather.

          The fact that you have to go all the way back to the Chico fight to find the best version of Floyd to fight Duran says a lot (and that was the 130 lb version). Floyd was another level compared to his peers, but Duran was just better and had the style to beat Floyd.

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            #85
            Pre A side negotiation power, maybe.

            But the super hype, super fight game mind set, maybe no.
            Floyd can choose a ref that best suits his style of not wanting to fight a strong mauler.

            Referee??? Judge selection??? Al kinds of other stuff.

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              #86
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              If Floyd wants to be TBE he needs to take some risks. For starters he needs to be an underdog in a fight. Being favourite in all his fights is not telling me how good he is, it is telling me he isn't fighting anyone anyone good. Fighting smaller guys like Pac where you have all the physical advantages in reach, height and they're coming off of kos doesn't impress me or any historian.

              Duran was competitive the the great Hagler. Floyd needs to show me he can be competitive with GGG at 160.
              He was the betting underdog against Chico, he was the smaller man too. Yet it was probably Floyd's best performance, knocking him down 5 times and stopping him in the process when most felt he would lose.

              Jumping up to 154 and being De La Hoya with all his demands was very good win too, where he had all the disadvantages. He hasn't always had everything his own way.

              He wasn't always the betting favourite throughout his career, you're just concentrating on the last part of his career where he was considered the best so by default he was betting favourite. Plus he fought plenty of bigger guys in recent years, he beat 2 guys who are fighting in a MW title fight next month.

              If you knew much about the sport, you would realise Floyd actually paid his dues and wasn't handed everything to him and gifted titles like many of todays young fighters. In the first half of his career he took on a lot of strong opposition and won titles the proper way.
              Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-23-2015, 04:31 AM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                I didn't mean he would literally say "No Mas" - I mean that version of Floyd would have had enough in his arsenal to frustrate and outbox Duran in a similar way Leonard did. He was the full package then and did everything.
                problem is the floyd of that era wasn't fighting anyone of duran's caliber.

                ray and floyd are not alike but ray was an atg caliber fighter.

                hard to compare a duran who was fighting another atg to a floyd fighting just a good fighter like corrales.

                in boxing a fighter can look spectacular vs. lower caliber opposition.


                plus tbh the duran who beat ray was a 12 yr. pro vet on the downside fighting in a higher division.

                the floyd you were talking about was still, young fresh in a division he was perfect in.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
                  At least I don't fück my own sister like ur honkey ass.

                  Fäggot ass cracka.
                  yeah because you can't.

                  your dad promised your sister to one of his uncles to be his 5th wife.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    problem is the floyd of that era wasn't fighting anyone of duran's caliber.

                    ray and floyd are not alike but ray was an atg caliber fighter.

                    hard to compare a duran who was fighting another atg to a floyd fighting just a good fighter like corrales.

                    in boxing a fighter can look spectacular vs. lower caliber opposition.


                    plus tbh the duran who beat ray was a 12 yr. pro vet on the downside fighting in a higher division.

                    the floyd you were talking about was still, young fresh in a division he was perfect in.
                    Well i did say p4p in the original post. I just think although Floyd was young still, that version of Floyd from the Chico fight gives any fighter problems head to head and p4p. My opinion thats all. He was young but he didn't fight like a young man.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                      Well i did say p4p in the original post. I just think although Floyd was young still, that version of Floyd from the Chico fight gives any fighter problems head to head and p4p. My opinion thats all. He was young but he didn't fight like a young man.
                      too much amateur exp PLUS family experience.

                      uncle rog had 70-80 fights and was world class.

                      rog was in the ring with chavez and pernell. even kostya tszyu late in his career.

                      a lot of knowledge and experience right there teaching floyd at a young age.

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