Comments Thread For: Sanchez: Nobody at 154, 160 Lasts Twelve With Golovkin

[MisanthropicNY]

Kids and trolls these days...

Let me remind you it was a Split Decision! And Levi Martinez's 117-111 is just as funny as your opinion. You're saying Lara doesn't deserve a bout with GGG when Sanchez promotes that no 154 fighter can take on GGG? Oxymoron 100%

Ok like I said. You think Lara won because he landed more punches while running away...

The pitty-pat, amateur sht Lara did can't compare to the professional punches thrown from Canelo.

Triple G should never fight Lara..Lara will run and throw like 10 punches per round, and have nerds like you saying it was a debatable fight and Lara gave him a boxing lesson..

The way boxing is set up right now..it's going to remain marginal forever.. Lara should have had to knock down or hurt Canelo to win a round.. he played well I hit you with 7 pitty pat shots you hit me with 5 prof. shots..so I win because i landed two more shots..gtfoh...

Any non-jab is pretty much considered a power punch lol... to call Lara's punches "power punches" is really a joke..they should just be called..non-Jab punches landed... The word "power" gives the wrong impression to uninformed audience.

[Lester Tutor]

I'm sure that during his amateur days he's fought plenty of quick fighters, it wont be anything new for Golovkin.

Considering Lara is quicker and has longer reach than GGG, I can see him stealing a couple of rounds from Golovkin, but I can't see him winning the fight in the slightest. It's not that Golovkin's opponents like to stay in the pocket, he's crazy good at herding them there. Lara will escape half the time, but when he doesn't, he'll get worn down real quickly.

Curtis Stevens is the only fighter that truly thought he could KO GGG by staying in the pocket even up to the 6th Rd, and Stevens got pop. That's not because GGG ''herded'' Stevens to be there. As already mentioned, that's one particular bout GGG used his jab to control range against Stevens. Lara is completely different. Lara will will time GGG's jab control, pot shot, and sneak out as usual. GGG looks tired going after 6 rounds. If he plans to cut the ring against Lara but misses, as GGG clearly misses throughout opportunities, he's going to get tired rather quickly. Of course this is all theory, however, the point is whether GGG even actually takes on 154 fighters when they promote it.

[Lester Tutor]

[QUOTE=MisanthropicNY;16148348]Ok like I said. You think Lara won because he landed more punches while running away...
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no no no! Don't run from the topic title of the thread! Practical around here. It was a split decision. There's no point in talking about 154 fighters if K2 doesn't own up to it.

Do you get the point?

[MisanthropicNY]

[QUOTE=SugarKaineHook;16148362]

Ok like I said. You think Lara won because he landed more punches while running away...
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no no no! Don't run from the topic title of the thread! Practical around here. It was a split decision. There's no point in talking about 154 fighters if K2 doesn't own up to it.

Do you get the point?

Umm did you read my post. I addressed Lara and said that Triple G would be a total idiot for fighting him... he lost to Canelo and he's a nobody with a super boring style..that brings nothing to the table..hopefully Lara is banished from US television altogether like Rigo..

Triple G can't fight everyone from 154-160... Lara wouldn't even be in my top 20 picks...

[Lester Tutor]

[QUOTE=MisanthropicNY;16148374]

Umm did you read my post. I addressed Lara and said that Triple G would be a total idiot for fighting him... he lost to Canelo and he's a nobody with a super boring style..that brings nothing to the table..hopefully Lara is banished from US television altogether like Rigo..

Triple G can't fight everyone from 154-160... Lara wouldn't even be in my top 20 picks...

Let's see if you understand drama or politics..

K2: ''People need to stop talking about 154 fighters with Golovkin. GGG fights at 160. We've never even mentioned 154, why does everybody else mention Lara.''

Sanchez: ''Lara doesn't bring anything to television...''

There's a difference between mentioning appeal for something vs staying with the fair truth that GGG ONLY fights at 154.

Don't worry. Other people know how to catch contradictions. It's normal.

[SlySlickSmooth]

bigjavi973's point is that Rosado was coming from 154 against GGG... Please keep in mind, it is very practical to say that Lara doesn't bring anything when the boxing world thought Lara beat Canelo. Lara has crazy ring footwork. That's not GGG's style. Most of his opponents stay in the pocket or are not as fast as Lara. We all know what time it is.

K2 and Team GGG don't practice against Potshot masters, and Lara got pop in those 1-2 quick combos. Monroe Jr. has no bonafide Cuban style training.

That's exactly my point when I said Rosado was picked for his style not for his achievements. And I'm part of the boxing world that thought Lara beat Canelo, you can search my post history from that fight thread if you have to.

Nobody wants to see Lara, he's boring no matter how much I enjoy seeing his skill. I'm someone who likes watching Lara but I have no problem admitting the public doesn't want to see him and that's a fact even though I know myself Lara is better than Monroe. Fact is that Monroe was fighting on PUBLIC television, not HBO or HBO PPV. People saw Monroe for free.

[Lester Tutor]

That's exactly my point when I said Rosado was picked for his style not for his achievements. And I'm part of the boxing world that thought Lara beat Canelo, you can search my post history from that fight thread if you have to.

Nobody wants to see Lara, he's boring no matter how much I enjoy seeing his skill. I'm someone who likes watching Lara but I have no problem admitting the public doesn't want to see him and that's a fact even though I know myself Lara is better than Monroe. Fact is that Monroe was fighting on PUBLIC television, not HBO or HBO PPV. People saw Monroe for free.

I let common sense supersede. The main reason why fans find out about other boxers is by watching the ''other'' fighter go against their favorite or hero. For non hardcore boxing fans that are just after Rocky style movies KNOW for a fact that Canelo didn't put Lara on the canvas and SAW that Canelo got tagged. They must be wondering who this Lara guy was when people have followed Canelo's career.

Had Lara and Canelo been a DRAW, I guarantee Lara would be a mad spotlight in boxing right now and would perhaps even boost Lara's confidence level in general. This is the same logic with Floyd, the PPV numbers CLEARLY show that people don't mind watching a boxer's defense and counter attacking abilities.

Let's all agree that ALL THE MEXICAN fans that thought Marquez was going to give Mayweather a good bout...thought otherwise and became a Floyd fan. This is just common sense.

I apply the same truth with Lara. I don't buy the ducking tactics that he doesn't bring anything. If Rigo didn't bring anything to the table then why in the hell did Top Rank even bargain with the idea against Donaire? They would've avoided that unification bout at all costs if it was about ratings. Arum complained after the fact, and there's a truly mystifying American thing that's anti-Cuban. That's an American cultural thing, and reminiscent with an older generation like Arum. There's a rarity in American culture to even advocate anything Pro-Cuban. That's just a fact and a political thing.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I let common sense supersede. The main reason why fans find out about other boxers is by watching the ''other'' fighter go against their favorite or hero. For non hardcore boxing fans that are just after Rocky style movies KNOW for a fact that Canelo didn't put Lara on the canvas and SAW that Canelo got tagged. They must be wondering who this Lara guy was when people have followed Canelo's career.

Had Lara and Canelo been a DRAW, I guarantee Lara would be a mad spotlight in boxing right now and would perhaps even boost Lara's confidence level in general. This is the same logic with Floyd, the PPV numbers CLEARLY show that people don't mind watching a boxer's defense and counter attacking abilities.

Let's all agree that ALL THE MEXICAN fans that thought Marquez was going to give Mayweather a good bout...thought otherwise and became a Floyd fan. This is just common sense.

I apply the same truth with Lara. I don't buy the ducking tactics that he doesn't bring anything. If Rigo didn't bring anything to the table then why in the hell did Top Rank even bargain with the idea against Donaire? They would've avoided that unification bout at all costs if it was about ratings. Arum complained after the fact, and there's a truly mystifying American thing that's anti-Cuban. That's an American cultural thing, and reminiscent with an older generation like Arum. There's a rarity in American culture to even advocate anything Pro-Cuban. That's just a fact and a political thing.

The fact that you even suspect non-hardcores who like Rocky to have any knowledge to understand Lara is extremely surprising. Casuals who like Rocky suddenly finding appreciation for Lara

Go make up your fantasy hypothetical outcomes instead of coming to reality. As if casuals even saw Canelo-Lara on PPV

Mayweather had a huge offensive arsenal before coming to Welterweight. Pre-Welterweight Floyd was exciting and threw combinations much more but as he got older he adapted and slowed down to a more calculated defensive style. People still kept watching him because he was the best in the sport and had an inevitable Pacquiao fight to come.

[Lester Tutor]

The fact that you even suspect non-hardcores who like Rocky to have any knowledge to understand Lara is extremely surprising. Casuals who like Rocky suddenly finding appreciation for Lara

Go make up your fantasy hypothetical outcomes instead of coming to reality. As if casuals even saw Canelo-Lara on PPV

Mayweather had a huge offensive arsenal before coming to Welterweight. Pre-Welterweight Floyd was exciting and threw combinations much more but as he got older he adapted and slowed down to a more calculated defensive style. People still kept watching him because he was the best in the sport and had an inevitable Pacquiao fight to come.

You're defending ratings logic. If you can gather more than 90% of posters that agree that rating failure is the reason why GGG shouldn't fight Lara then I won't bother with it.... get the point? Is the thread title about PPV or 154 in general? Make up your mind.

And regarding your reasoning about ''casuals'' you must be joking. Most PPV buys are hosted by a group of people watching an event, meaning one person pays, the rest chip in for whatever it is they're bringing. Out of those groups if you can guarantee that not ONE person was influenced or inspired by the bout to never purchase a PPV and host it then I'll also not debate it. Good luck.

[SlySlickSmooth]

You're defending ratings logic. If you can gather more than 90% of posters that agree that rating failure is the reason why GGG shouldn't fight Lara then I won't bother with it.... get the point? Is the thread title about PPV or 154 in general? Make up your mind.

And regarding your reasoning about ''casuals'' you must be joking. Most PPV buys are hosted by a group of people watching an event, meaning one person pays, the rest chip in for whatever it is they're bringing. Out of those groups if you can guarantee that not ONE person was influenced or inspired by the bout to never purchase a PPV and host it then I'll also not debate it. Good luck.

You need to remember the context you started my conversation with me. I was replying to Bigjavi's statement about WHY they chose Monroe over Lara and I kept to it.