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    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    No, GGG has never called out Canelo or Cotto. In fact, I don't think he has ever called out any specific boxer, by name.

    All he has said is that he is the mandatory challenger for the WBC title, and he wants his shot, at the divisional limit of 160lbs.

    If Cotto weighed in at 153 to defend against GGG at 160 that would be a very dumb mistake on his part, but not GGG's problem.
    Dont be ridiculous, he has been calling them out for years......

    when asked to name the top fighter on their list, the 32-year-old champion did not hesitate to mention Cotto, who is the reigning WBC middleweight champion. " Miguel Cotto. 100 percent, I respect him, I respect his style. This is the biggest fight for everybody. For TV, for my fans, for everybody. For boxing," Golovkin said.....


    " Gennady Golovkin wants Miguel Cotto. And Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. And Canelo Alvarez ".....


    You should be willing to stick by the conviction you had when you made that comment. The fact that you conveniently changed your conviction for Golovkin is almost romantic.

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      Originally posted by techliam View Post
      Froch/Chavez weren't fair fights. The money made them lucrative

      You're still sore about about team GGG's statements re: 154-168. Most other sensible people didn't fall for it, but you did

      You've learnt now, so let it drop
      Stoppit willya

      FACT #1: Ward is more lucrative for GGG than either Froch or Chavez......

      Beating Ward would establish Golovkin as a genuine elite fighter, and as the best P4P fighter on the planet. That would be HUGE for HBO/K2..... and it would make Golovkin a PPV star a lot quicker than beating Chavez would.

      Beating Ward is Team Golovkins problem.

      So, you admit that Team Golovkin bullshhted their fans with that "anyone from 154-168" schtick..... but you believed the dozen-or-so excuses they gave to duck Ward? Once someone starts lying to you it becomes hard to believe anything they say.

      Ward being a financial disaster is only true if you cant beat him.

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        ward hasn't earned a fight with kovalev

        but if he's willing to fight for 10% or so i guess they could throw the nobody a bone

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          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          Stoppit willya

          FACT #1: Ward is more lucrative for GGG than either Froch or Chavez......

          Beating Ward would establish Golovkin as a genuine elite fighter, and as the best P4P fighter on the planet. That would be HUGE for HBO/K2..... and it would make Golovkin a PPV star a lot quicker than beating Chavez would.

          Beating Ward is Team Golovkins problem.

          So, you admit that Team Golovkin bullshhted their fans with that "anyone from 154-168" schtick..... but you believed the dozen-or-so excuses they gave to duck Ward? Once someone starts lying to you it becomes hard to believe anything they say.

          Ward being a financial disaster is only true if you cant beat him.
          Yeah, facing Ward would bring in more money than Facing Froch at Wembley in front of 70-80K on PPV.

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            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            Dont be ridiculous, he has been calling them out for years......

            when asked to name the top fighter on their list, the 32-year-old champion did not hesitate to mention Cotto, who is the reigning WBC middleweight champion. " Miguel Cotto. 100 percent, I respect him, I respect his style. This is the biggest fight for everybody. For TV, for my fans, for everybody. For boxing," Golovkin said.....


            " Gennady Golovkin wants Miguel Cotto. And Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. And Canelo Alvarez ".....


            You should be willing to stick by the conviction you had when you made that comment. The fact that you conveniently changed your conviction for Golovkin is almost romantic.
            GGG wants to fight for the WBC and lineal MW titles, and Cotto holds those titles. It's the titles GGG wants, not Cotto personally.

            And if Cotto defends those titles, he defends them as a MW, and the MW limit is 160lbs, not "whatever Miguel Cotto weighs"

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              Ward isn't P4P right now.

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                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                P4P ?

                That is absolutely what you do.

                P4P is completely hypothetical.

                Ward was inacitive, he did not suddenly become David Lemieux.

                He was still sharp, still elite, still got those mad skills, still P4P.

                Mayweather did the exact same thing.

                Suggesting that those two fighters " start again " is absurd.

                If Ward was half-as-shht as you guys make out, Golovkin would have fought him.
                I find it of interest that you state that Ward, "He was still sharp, still elite, still got those mad skills, still P4P." This is based on what? His fight against Paul Smith? That's quite a stretch. Quite a stretch indeed. In fact, it's laughable; however, it does indicate how emotion and not reason is the driving force for Andre Ward's fans.

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                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  Kathy Duva is right on this one. The winner will have a solid resume of quality wins and can rightfully be called P4P #1.

                  They will have earned the top spot due to their accomplishments in the ring and not based on "popularity contests."
                  Depends. If Gonzalez adds an Estrada and say a Nietes before then, and held form, not sure it's cut and dried.

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                    i thought ward was scared doe

                    ggg has done nothing to be p4p #1.. ward vs kovalev winner is the king of the sport, hands down.

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                      ggg groupies secretly wish ward doesnt fight kovalev so they can feel better about golovkin being a ducking coward

                      but at the same time they want the fight to happen because they think kovalev knocks him out and ggg won't have to bother with ward anymore.

                      ggg fans are very conflicted.

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