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[exposed] mattyse the biggest hybe job of the last 5 years>>>>>??

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    #31
    Hype job? He was one of the better fighters of the last 5 years. It's a shame he has no belts to show for it but his resume is solid.

    Judah
    Alexander
    Soto
    Olusegun
    Peterson
    Garcia
    Provodnikov
    Postol

    He fought all the best guys of his generation and he also had success against them as well.

    I think he's had an absolutely terrific career and you'll be lucky to see a fighter with that kind of resume appear any time soon. Fighters nowadays want safe fights to build up pretty looking records. They won't test themselves like Matthysse did.

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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      no he didn't. he won some and he lost some. the reason he didn't have a belt is luck and circumstances. he destroyed peterson(better win than any broner win) who had a belt but haymon didn't want them fighting for a belt so he made it a non title fight. he won and he lost same as broner cept lucas fought the better competition yet you hate on him for taking risks and praise broner because he cherry picked his way to 4 belts. only one of those belts was legit over dimarco and dimarco wasn't very good and had no staying power at the top. 2 of them were vacant belts against unranked guys and the third was against paulie who was coming off a robbery win over cano.
      blame Lucas, not haymon. Via ESPN


      "Matthysse didn't want to give up his interim belt and fight only for Peterson's title, because by possessing the interim title he remains the mandatory challenger for Garcia. Peterson would have been fine with defending his title and even unifying with the interim title. But the IBF, in a sanctioning body move that actually makes sense for a change, wouldn't allow a unification with an interim title"

      Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post
      Broner was getting hyped as the next Floyd and some saying next FOTD remember that thread. Either way, you cant deny Lucas took the harder road. I mean Broner was getting close decisions ppl thought he lost to fuc*kin PDL who got sparked by lil Mares a 122lb fighter.
      Harder road? He had his opportunities. Fight Argentinian goat herders for 30 fights, step up vs zab- loses. Few more herders, step up vs Devon- loses. Hard road my ass. He made it hard by losing when he had to step up then working his way back

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        #33
        Damnit !!! An "old fashioned" drinkong night and made mistake and checked NSB!!!

        DAMNITT!!!

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          #34
          Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
          blame Lucas, not haymon. Via ESPN


          "Matthysse didn't want to give up his interim belt and fight only for Peterson's title, because by possessing the interim title he remains the mandatory challenger for Garcia. Peterson would have been fine with defending his title and even unifying with the interim title. But the IBF, in a sanctioning body move that actually makes sense for a change, wouldn't allow a unification with an interim title"


          Harder road? He had his opportunities. Fight Argentinian goat herders for 30 fights, step up vs zab- loses. Few more herders, step up vs Devon- loses. Hard road my ass. He made it hard by losing when he had to step up then working his way back
          And Broner stepped up and won against who? Lucas win against Peterson> anything on Broners resume.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post
            And Broner stepped up and won against who? Lucas win against Peterson> anything on Broners resume.
            Demarco? People keep saying how crap he is but he had the belt and did his job. Lucas' own fault for not being Ibf champ.

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              #36
              He was hyped up too much but not a complete hype job. I've always said you can say he was robbed against someone like Judah but the fact is it was still close enough to where they could take it away from him. If he was as good as people thought then it wouldn't have come to letting fighters like a basically shot Judah run you close.

              But i won't say he was a total hypejob. He was still a pretty good fighter and i think he has had a lot of tough fights and something has to give eventually.

              I actually don't think him or Garcia have been the same since their fight. I think they both took something out of each other that night.
              Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-04-2015, 01:35 AM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                Demarco? People keep saying how crap he is but he had the belt and did his job. Lucas' own fault for not being Ibf champ.
                So Demarco>Peterson? Demarco the guy not even ranked #1 Marquez and Rios who both were ranked higher and left the division and #1 and #2 spots ended up vacant and Abril and Vazquez who were better. Ya he fought some fighter. But couldn't beat a little fighter in PDL which a smaller fighter then PDL sparked out.

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                  #38
                  I remember one poster on here who pick Lucas to KO TBE, before the Garcia fight. Not that it couldn't have happened but was the sort of hype surrounding him at one time. He is like Zab Judah in a way because after another one of two wins the hype would start again with him. I actually like Lucas and he has some big wins but he isn't the great fight some wants us to believe he is, power is not everything.

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                    #39
                    He beat Mike Dallas and now all of the sudden he's a hype job??? Come one guys ...

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                      #40
                      why people keep arguing with hanz? that still puzzles me.

                      no bigger hypejob than broner who was labeled as the heir to floyd's throne by everyone at showtime

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