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    #31
    Im on PED'S

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      #32
      Here I found great short concise video on why Mayweather Cheated with the IV's. No BS or fluff in this video and short enough for the flomos to watch without needing a g**** drank break.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        how did pac look abnormal? explain.

        everyone went years without random testing. it's a new and still rare thing.

        floyd went with out random testing for 14 yrs.

        It took Manny getting ktfo... I love karma....jmm was juiced doe lol

        Finally stopped juicing and stopped getting tko, ko, only dropped algieri since 2012.



        Refresh my memory, was there OSDT testing for jmm/PAC 4

        Dude started juicing, n draining after losing to morales



        Past 130 most his opponents were moving up to fight him, wholly average or just got beat bad 1-3 fights before ....Bradley is his best win...Bradley is the goods... From 10-15 except timmeh n money his comp looked like **** just before fight PAc

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          #34
          the IV thing pretty much verified 100% that floyd is on something he's trying to hide

          but there's a 95% chance pac is also on the same thing

          juan chest acne and sudden muscle mass at 40 marquez likewise

          now lets move on

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            #35
            Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
            Im on PED'S
            codeine and soda ain't PEDS, mr. 3 6 mafia.

            sip.... sip.... sippin on some sizzurp....

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              #36
              Originally posted by PBP. View Post
              Both. I don't care. If u ain't cheatin u ain't trying.

              And every one else uses them too.

              Exactly....BOTH end of thread...If anyone thinks either guy is clean come see me because I never tole nobod but we have some bridge property in the family and things have been kinda tough...

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                #37
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                It took Manny getting ktfo... I love karma....jmm was juiced doe lol

                Finally stopped juicing and stopped getting tko, ko, only dropped algieri since 2012.



                Refresh my memory, was there OSDT testing for jmm/PAC 4

                Dude started juicing, n draining after losing to morales



                Past 130 most his opponents were moving up to fight him, wholly average or just got beat bad 1-3 fights before ....Bradley is his best win...Bradley is the goods... From 10-15 except timmeh n money his comp looked like **** just before fight PAc
                yawn.......

                go hook up 750ml of saline and vitamins and flush the dullness out of your system.

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                  #38
                  I can see how this is gonna go. All the Manny haters or Floyd fanboys gonna say Manny & all the Floyd haters & Manny fanboys gonna say Floyd lol.

                  Being rational about this I think you gotta say Manny is the more guilty party. Ariza seems to give boxers guilt by association. And while both have worked with Ariza at this point I think the tie breaker would be Floyd being tested & still performing at a high level while Manny was performing at his highest level during a run at his highest & 2nd highest weight divisions while 100% not wanting PED testing to slowly backing off of it over time & talks with Mayweather until he started being tested himself which seemed to align with him having a sharp decline in abilities. Just due to both of their high levels of performance at an advanced age despite neither having an official positive test they both gotta be on the PED radar, but Manny seems like he has more & more damaging circumstantial evidence of usage.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    It took Manny getting ktfo... I love karma....jmm was juiced doe lol

                    Finally stopped juicing and stopped getting tko, ko, only dropped algieri since 2012.



                    Refresh my memory, was there OSDT testing for jmm/PAC 4

                    Dude started juicing, n draining after losing to morales



                    Past 130 most his opponents were moving up to fight him, wholly average or just got beat bad 1-3 fights before ....Bradley is his best win...Bradley is the goods... From 10-15 except timmeh n money his comp looked like **** just before fight PAc
                    moving up?

                    you do know pacquiao started as a 106 pounder right?

                    I mean look at your logic,

                    Pacuqiao ROIDED but his opponents are crap and he's crap.


                    WTF??????


                    There isnt a single shred of evidence that pacquiao used. Floyd on the other hand HAS BEEN CAUGHT USING AN ILLEGAL IV DRIP RECOGNIZED BY THE WORLD ANTI DOPING AGENCY AS AN ILLEGAL IV MANEUVER USED TO MASK PED USE.

                    That is an actual fact.

                    Not a baseless made up opinion with no proof or logic which is what your pacquiao ped accusation is.

                    What pacquiao did has been done before countless times throughout boxing history.

                    If you knew your boxing history instead of gargling on floyd's balls everyday trying to scam your rep with your old school boxing avatar, you would know this.

                    What pacquiao did is NOTHING SPECIAL AND IN FACT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN FAR MORE PRONOUNCED FASHION THAT WHAT PACQUIAO DID.

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                      #40
                      For all this back and forth between the fanboy camps. Let's be honest with this.

                      Truth be told they are BOTH PED users plain and simple. I think Pac is clean now and for obvious reasons, but he was once dirty. And Floyd used this crusader cleaning up the sport stance as a cover up for his truths. Floyd has paper trail and past test that showed he was dirty and now this IV scandal just validates him.

                      But the basic answer to the main question is; THEY ARE BOTH DIRTY.

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