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    #31
    Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
    Ward in your first World title defense?
    Sure. Timing is great. I'd hate it for DeGale to take the Deontay Wilder route.

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      #32
      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
      You gotta have a chin to begin with. Look at the first Andrade fight.
      He got hurt in the very last round of the fight where he was tired, I wouldn't necessarily say that proved he had no chin.

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        #33
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Sure. Timing is great. I'd hate it for DeGale to take the Deontay Wilder route.
        So unless he fights the consensus number 1 in the division and one of the top fighters in the world in his first defence, it's the Deontay Wilder route?

        Very lofty standards indeed. I wish you'd apply these to some of the fighters you support.

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          #34
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          Bute is not qualified. Is that not being realistic?

          Ward hasn't faced a live body for 4 years and is likely easier to beat now than next year. DeGale should have made a play for that fight.
          4 years? He beat Edwin Rodriguez in 2013.

          Edwin Rodriguez was coming off of brutalizing Denis Grachev in 1 round. The guy who took Erdei and Sillakh's 0's, and probably shoud have gotten a draw against Bute. After the Rodriguez beating, Grachev has not been the same fighter. Good win for Ward IMO, over a top 10 SMW.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Of course YOU would

            Bute was blasted out by Froch in 5 rounds and has never looked the same since. Life n death with Glazkov in his following fight. Gun shy and comfortably beaten by Pascal.
            I say on par because Bute while fought very carefully matched opposition, he did look really good, BUT is a dinosaur. Chaves is young, but couldn't take care of Rios, which for someone of his skill set was possible.



            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            Sure. Timing is great. I'd hate it for DeGale to take the Deontay Wilder route.

            The general pattern for fighters winning their first belt is to recoup the lifetime worth of money and effort by taking a voluntary like this one. However, we shall wait and see how it goes from here.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
              I say on par because Bute while fought very carefully matched opposition, he did look really good, BUT is a dinosaur. Chaves is a young, but couldn't take care of Rios, which for someone of his skill set was possible.
              No, we know why YOU would say "on par". Stop it.

              Chaves was taking care of Rios until the bogus DQ and fought competitively with Bradley/Thurman.

              Bute has not been competitive against elite fighters. He's probably on par with Devon Alexander or something.
              Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 09-20-2015, 04:46 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                He got hurt in the very last round of the fight where he was tired, I wouldn't necessarily say that proved he had no chin.
                He was already KO'ed in the amateurs by GGG.

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                  #38
                  DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point.

                  Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
                    DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point.

                    Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England.
                    Definitely not going to be in the UK.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
                      DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point.

                      Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England.
                      Don't understand the complaints this is a very winnable fight for Bute

                      I see Bute stopping degale in 9 rounds he won't be gunshy vs dégale,I'd say Bute is a better fighter than Andre dirrel at this present time but has better timing and a fast left hand just probably not as good recovery as Dirrel if hurt

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