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    #71
    From my understanding:

    - 750 mL IV dilutes the blood so it can affect blood tests, meaning it won't be accurate.

    - 750 mL IV makes you urinate more, so you're basically flushing out the fluids, and whatever's in them, from your system. Patients in the hospital who are under IV fluids constantly go to the restroom since their bodies are constantly receiving fluids via IV.

    The maximum normally allowed for IVs was merely 50 mL. 750 mL is way too much. Floyd was somehow given a RETROACTIVE clearance/permission to get that much. If he was dehyrdated, he could have went with 50 mL IV and then take more fluids ORALLY.

    You know, if Pacquiao pulled this, most of these Floyd fans would be attacking him at the snap of the finger and calling him a roider but since it's Floyd, he can do no wrong.
    Last edited by Ruthless One; 09-14-2015, 07:32 AM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Ruthless One View Post
      From my understanding:

      - 750 mL IV dilutes the blood so it can affect blood tests, meaning it won't be accurate.

      - 750 mL IV makes you urinate more, so you're basically flushing out the fluids, and whatever's in them, from your system. Patients in the hospital who are under IV fluids constantly go to the restroom since their bodies are constantly receiving fluids via IV.

      The maximum normally allowed for IVs was merely 50 mL. 750 mL is way too much. Floyd was somehow given a RETROACTIVE clearance/permission to get that much. If he was dehyrdated, he could have went with 50 mL IV and then take more fluids ORALLY.

      You know, if Pacquiao pulled this, most of these Floyd fans would be attacking him at the snap of the finger and calling him a roider but since it's Floyd, he can do no wrong.
      That's why he was tested before and after.

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        #73
        Usada walked in on him administering an illegal iv. They didn't tell nsac until 19 days after the fight. 750 ml to any doping tester is a red flag for masking peds

        An illegal iv in general to a doping tester is a red flag for flushing out PEDs.

        Nsac said clearly usada has no authority to give out TUE.

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          #74
          Rightfully or wrongly, that Lance Armstrong comparison will haunt Floyd.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
            Usada walked in on him administering an illegal iv.
            That never happened.

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              #76
              Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
              That's why he was tested before and after.
              But if he pulled this off, who knows how many times he could have been administering IVs at home? He may have done this multiple times. People have repeatedly stated that IV-use can be done to mask banned substances taken by an athlete.

              Anyway, let's set that aside. Pacquiao requested for Toradol (which is legal) for his shoulder before the fight and was refused. Yet Mayweather took an illegal amount (700 more than usual) of IV fluids at home and was granted exemption even though he applied for it on the 19th! That's 17 days after the fight, man. The bias (aka special treatment) is obvious.

              At the very least, we can admit this is su****ious.
              Last edited by Ruthless One; 09-14-2015, 08:41 AM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Ruthless One View Post
                But if he pulled this off, who knows how many times he could have been administering IVs at home? He may have done this multiple times. People have repeatedly stated that IV-use can be done to mask banned substances taken by an athlete.

                Anyway, let's set that aside. Pacquiao requested for Toradol (which is legal) for his shoulder before the fight and was refused. Yet Mayweather took an illegal amount (700 more than usual) of IV fluids at home and was granted exemption even though he applied for it on the 19th! That's 17 days after the fight, man. The bias (aka special treatment) is obvious.

                At the very least, we can admit this is su****ious.
                This is the problem. People discussing a situation without having any of the information.

                - 750ml is not illegal if you have a TUE
                - The TUE process takes at least 21 to 28 days according to USADA rules, but they do have the concept of a retroactive TUE (takes effect from a date in the past).
                - Floyd apparently contacted USADA about his intention to use the IV and got tested beforehand to make sure everything was above board.
                - Floyd used the IV solution, and got tested afterwards.
                - The retroactive TUE was granted weeks after the fight, obviously taking effect from a date/time prior to the use of the IV.

                Can you explain which USADA rules have been broken given that sequence of events? Can you point out any NSAC rules that have been broken?

                Now, about the Toradol shot. USADA didn't have a problem with the use of Toradol. The NSAC however did since no injury was declared in the pre-fight medical questionnaire, and the request to use the shot was made last minute.

                Can you not see the difference between the two situations?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                  This is the problem. People discussing a situation without having any of the information.

                  - 750ml is not illegal if you have a TUE
                  - The TUE process takes at least 21 to 28 days according to USADA rules, but they do have the concept of a retroactive TUE (takes effect from a date in the past).
                  - Floyd apparently contacted USADA about his intention to use the IV and got tested beforehand to make sure everything was above board.
                  - Floyd used the IV solution, and got tested afterwards.
                  - The retroactive TUE was granted weeks after the fight, obviously taking effect from a date/time prior to the use of the IV.

                  Can you explain which USADA rules have been broken given that sequence of events? Can you point out any NSAC rules that have been broken?
                  - The regular TUE process, as you've stated, takes 21-28 days to take effect. So he should have applied for it ahead of time if he were planning to rehydrate before fight night.
                  - USADA actually knew about the IV procedure beforehand yet did not inform NSAC about the procedure, telling them 3 weeks after the fight. Floyd officially applied for a TUE on the 19th and was somehow approved a retroactive TUE.

                  To add to the confusion, Bob Bennett from NSAC said that only NSAC can give TUEs in the state of Nevada. If we leave Floyd out of it, one has to question USADA's practices.

                  The thing you said about Pac requesting for Toradol made sense, so I will not question that particular matter any further.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                    The location isn't an issue as long as it's administered by a medical professional. I'm sure someone as rich as Floyd has a personal physician on call.
                    memo and ariza are on Floyd's speed dial

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                      #80
                      Smh........

                      Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                      The location isn't an issue as long as it's administered by a medical professional. I'm sure someone as rich as Floyd has a personal physician on call.

                      WTF!? You sound ******, man. Location is VERY much an issue. What the hell was he doing it for????????????? Who is USADA REALLY????????? An agency Floyd brought into the sport of boxing so he can cheat and get away with it. That's what I think and what a whole lot of others think also. It would be like going to someone's house and they have huge oxygen tanks, surgical tools, etc. I would be like; How? Why?

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