Did Floyd use epitestosterone cream on 24/7? USADA clearly biased in favour of Floyd

[GTTofAK]

Either way, there's nothing in the regulations preventing it from happening at home.

3. Medical best practice treatment
Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with either medi cal emergencies or in-patient care.

When an IV infusion is administered to an athlete, the following criteria should be fulfilled:

1. A clearly defined diagnosis.

2. Supportive evidence that no permitted alternative treatment can be
used.
3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.

4. Adequate medical records of the treatment.

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after
exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
(Ref: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)

So not only did Floyd break the WADA rules about where the IV can be taken the reason given to USADA is specifically and address by WADA as a banned practice.

So the question is why did USADA issue the TUE when WADA explicitly forbids TUE's to be granted for the use of IV's to treat moderate dehydration? USADA is under WADA and WADA sets the rules so why did USADA violate WADA's rules and issue a explicitly banned TUE?

There is no gray area here. WADA explicitly bans the use of IVs to tread moderate dehydration and the issuance of TUEs for the purpose. USADA's TUE is invalid under WADA rules.

[b00g13man]

So not only did Floyd break the WADA rules about where the IV can be taken the reason given to USADA is specifically and address by WADA as a banned practice.

So the question is why did USADA issue the TUE when WADA explicitly forbids TUE's to be granted for the use of IV's to treat moderate dehydration? USADA is under WADA and WADA sets the rules so why did USADA violate WADA's rules and issue a explicitly banned TUE?

There is no gray area here. WADA explicitly bans the use of IVs to tread moderate dehydration and the issuance of TUEs for the purpose. USADA's TUE is invalid under WADA rules.

How does "appropriate medical setting" = hospital?

[IR0NFIST]

Loooooooool. So it's ok for some medical procedures to be carried out at home and not others? Nitwit.

We're talking about a specific kind of medical procedure, dummy. The kind that can be exploited by athletes to mask PED use, which is the case of Floyd and his su****ious use of banned IVs that contained 15 times the amount of saline needed to rehydrate.

[ADP02]

WTF does this have to do with Michael? Pur some thought into your posts please.

You implied that nothing can go wrong if a rich guy hires a doctor and its all done in his mansion. I gave you one example of a very rich guy doing just that at his home and it went very wrong.


You need to follow the rules. You can't just make a statement like you did just because Floyd is rich and can afford to buy people off, so lets all have a party at his house and give out the IVs.

[Eff Pandas]

So not only did Floyd break the WADA rules about where the IV can be taken the reason given to USADA is specifically and address by WADA as a banned practice.

Thats not what it reads to me.

3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.

That sounds like an appropriate medical setting could be open to interpretation to me. I mean it doesn't say a hospital or doctors office only. I imagine a lot of things could be considered a medical setting. Just having a doctor present with the needed equipment for example could qualify perhaps. I mainly know that that isn't a clear statement on where IV's can or cannot be used so to suggest what Mayweather did is a banned practice is a assumption via what I'm reading.

The rest of the stuff you talked about has been murdered in discussion. A TUE can be granted for amounts in excess of 50ml. And the ability for a range of symptoms to equate a IV is probably something a 2nd year med student could pull off. And these types of IV's have been the hot new thing for a few years now & the only real problem is if you aren't getting tested before they are being used, which Floyd was. So while its potentially possible thats shifty doctor bs to make his patient happy its not something thats 100% w/o merit.

[GTTofAK]

How does "appropriate medical setting" = hospital?

Because the full list is " a hospital admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation." Which is shorted to "appropriate medical setting".

Since this wasn't a surgical procedure of clinical investigation then it must be a hospital admission.

[GTTofAK]

Thats not what it reads to me.

3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.

That sounds like an appropriate medical setting could be open to interpretation to me. I mean it doesn't say a hospital or doctors office only. I imagine a lot of things could be considered a medical setting. Just having a doctor present with the needed equipment for example could qualify perhaps. I mainly know that that isn't a clear statement on where IV's can or cannot be used so to suggest what Mayweather did is a banned practice is a assumption via what I'm reading.

The rest of the stuff you talked about has been murdered in discussion. A TUE can be granted for amounts in excess of 50ml. And the ability for a range of symptoms to equate a IV is probably something a 2nd year med student could pull off. And these types of IV's have been the hot new thing for a few years now & the only real problem is if you aren't getting tested before they are being used, which Floyd was. So while its potentially possible thats shifty doctor bs to make his patient happy its not something thats 100% w/o merit.

Well that is a load of total bull****! You can claim its been "murdered"? but you are too ****** to make the case youreself.

Bottom line WADA explicitly bans IVs for moderate dehydration. There is no gray area here . USADA broke WADA's rules when they issued the TUE for moderate dehydration.

[IR0NFIST]

You implied that nothing can go wrong if a rich guy hires a doctor and its all done in his mansion. I gave you one example of a very rich guy doing just that at his home and it went very wrong.


You need to follow the rules. You can't just make a statement like you did just because Floyd is rich and can afford to buy people off, so lets all have a party at his house and give out the IVs.

It's pointless trying to reason with the guy, his head is lodged too far up Floyd's ass. All circulation to his brain has been cutoff completely, even the jaws of life couldn't save him at this point. The only thing we can do now is pray that God have mercy on his poor unfortunate soul.

[b00g13man]

We're talking about a specific kind of medical procedure, dummy. The kind that can be exploited by athletes to mask PED use, which is the case of Floyd and his su****ious use of banned IVs that contained 15 times the amount of saline needed to rehydrate.

So how does him going to a hospital prevent him from using it to mask PEDs, rather than have his physician carry it out at home? ****ing tit.

[b00g13man]

You implied that nothing can go wrong if a rich guy hires a doctor and its all done in his mansion. I gave you one example of a very rich guy doing just that at his home and it went very wrong.


You need to follow the rules. You can't just make a statement like you did just because Floyd is rich and can afford to buy people off, so lets all have a party at his house and give out the IVs.

What does an IV solution for rehydration have to do with Michael Jackson's drug ****tail, and how would anything have changed if the doctor had prescribed the same drugs in a hospital anyway?