Official All Time Pound for Pound Rankings: Mayweather is # 19!!!

[Check_hooks]

people that have floyd anywhere on there list are the same people who have barry bonds and sammy sosa on there ATG baseball lists

[chirorickyp]

That is a very solid 1-30 ranking and I agree with most of it actually. Few points I dont:

- I find it interesting Marciano retired undefeated at 49-0 and beat #s 5, 7 and 19 yet he is not even ranked in the top 30. I just find that very odd?
- Muhammad Ali is ranked too high. I know this is not a popular stance but I feel he is overrated and always has been. His famous name is what gets him ranked so high all the time I feel. I'd put him probably between 12-18.
- I think Pac should be at least in the high teens or twenties. That "8 division title" run is bs we all know that and I find it hard to rank someone as high as he is who has been stopped as many times as he has (3) and outboxed by people who are either below him or not on this list (Morales, JMM and Floyd).
- I would maybe consider LaMotta somewhere in the top 30?

I think over time modern fighters will be appreciated more to be honest. I think in addition to Floyd and Pac, JMM or even Wlad K. may break into the top 30 of all time possibly.

Wlad? Glass jaw destroyed by mediocre fighters. Noooo.

Ali belongs where is, end of story.

Hagler had a better career than Leonard, more successful title defences. He handled everyrone convincingly. Leonard avoided him for 4 years and then was given a gift because everyone expected him to get hurt badly. Everyone forgets Micheal Spinks. He did it all ,great defensive fighter, great punch, cleaned out the light heavyweight divison, was undefeated his whole career until he moved up in weight to fight a peak Mike Tyson. He beat Larry Holmes after putting on 30 pds.

I love Foreman, but he lost whenever someone boxed him.

[HanzGruber]

Any list that has manny above Floyd is automatically invalid. it's clear Floyd is the best of his era. Not even a debate anymore

[chirorickyp]

I think Jose Napoles the great Cuban welterweight champion for years was better pound for pound than any one on your list. Did you ever see him fight? He was a natural lightweight who could beat any welterweight. The great Mexican featherweight Vincente Saldivar should be high on any list. I'll bet a prime Hearns or Trinidad would knock out most of the welterweights on your list Mayweather included. You may think I am wrong but you can't prove it anymore than I can prove you wrong. Basilio and Gavilan lost a lot of fights as did Sam Langford. Langford was knocked out many times and he fought the same guys over and over sometimes as many as 7 times. It's hard to compare fighters of different eras with different rules.

Trinidad would have been easily outboxed by Floyd. He wouldn't have landed a punch on Floyd. Trinidad was schooled by Winky Wright. A 12 round shut out.

[RED REP]

Time to rank Mayweather. He has had a great career, often rated among the best defensive boxers ever. He does not hold any records (Pac has 8 titles in 8 weight divisions; Ricardo Lopez retired 54-0 (1 draw); Armstrong held 3 titles in 3 weight divisions simultaneously; Robinson won and recaptured middleweight title 5 times; Joe Louis had 26 title defenses over almost twelve years).

But Mayweather, when it comes to fighter vs fighter skills comparison, was near flawless. It is for this reason that I rank him this way in my all time great pound for pound rankings.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Willie Pep
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Joe Louis
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Archie Moore
8. Roberto Duran
9. Harry Greb
10. Sam Lanford
11. Benny Leonard
12. Jimmy Wilde
13. Joe Gans
14. Carlos Monzon
15. Ezzard Charles
16. Manny Pacquiao
17. Roy Jones
18. Julio Ceasar Chavez SENIOR
19. Floyd Mayweather JUNIOR
20. Pernell Whitaker
21. Bernard Hopkins
22. Gene Tunney
23. Tommy Loughran
24. Carmen Basilio
25. Tony Canzoneri
26. George Foreman
27. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
28. Jack Dempsey
29. Salvador Sanchez
30. Kid Gavilan

Awful list.

Tunney too low along with Greb.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Time to rank Mayweather. He has had a great career, often rated among the best defensive boxers ever. He does not hold any records (Pac has 8 titles in 8 weight divisions; Ricardo Lopez retired 54-0 (1 draw); Armstrong held 3 titles in 3 weight divisions simultaneously; Robinson won and recaptured middleweight title 5 times; Joe Louis had 26 title defenses over almost twelve years).

But Mayweather, when it comes to fighter vs fighter skills comparison, was near flawless. It is for this reason that I rank him this way in my all time great pound for pound rankings.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Willie Pep
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Joe Louis
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Archie Moore
8. Roberto Duran
9. Harry Greb
10. Sam Lanford
11. Benny Leonard
12. Jimmy Wilde
13. Joe Gans
14. Carlos Monzon
15. Ezzard Charles
16. Manny Pacquiao
17. Roy Jones
18. Julio Ceasar Chavez SENIOR
19. Floyd Mayweather JUNIOR
20. Pernell Whitaker
21. Bernard Hopkins
22. Gene Tunney
23. Tommy Loughran
24. Carmen Basilio
25. Tony Canzoneri
26. George Foreman
27. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
28. Jack Dempsey
29. Salvador Sanchez
30. Kid Gavilan

Floyd Mayweather had 26 champion fights and won them all and he did it at 5 different weight classes, with him winning a title at the highest weight class he fought at 3 different times, so consider that.

Also there rankings are unfair to fighters from the modern era (1980- now) cuz boxing was very different before that, the weight classes were different, the ranking system was different, the money and the business of boxing in general is totally different, u can't fight 100-150 times now anymore if u r at the highest level and u can't take tune up fights, go look at Robinson's record, he had 21 title fights in 200 fights.

And ranking Manny Pacquiao above Floyd Mayweather is absolute bologna

[dtown1000]

Floyd is top ten easily. Floyd has made the sweet science look so easy that now it is under appreciated by most fans. He is the best defensive fighter of all time.Has great footwork, excellent chin, and his pull back right hand is a thing of beauty. He can never be number 1 because of his era. I would love see someone beat him by outboxing him just to see what they would do.

[13777]

OP where are

Rocky Marciano
Lennox Lewis
Rid**** Bowe
Wladimir Klitschko

[musiol]

OP where are

Rocky Marciano
Lennox Lewis
Rid**** Bowe
Wladimir Klitschko

Why would bowe or wlad b on it wtf haha

[DannyNL]

LOL@ Pac ahead of Mayweather p4p.

Haters say the Darndest things lol