Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[travestyny]

Dehydration? Why I bring up mild, moderate, severe? Because so does WADA!

WADA
Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are
most commonly associated with either medical emergencies or in-patient care.
When an IV infusion is administered to an athlete, the following criteria should be fulfilled:

1. A clearly defined diagnosis.
2. Supportive evidence that no permitted alternative treatment can be used.

3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician ? and administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.
Something tells me that it was Dr Ariza or another Floyd doctor!

4. Adequate medical records of the treatment.
The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.




Like I said, when bring up questions of "how can it be that Floyd did that if ....", then Lance's name comes up but do not confuse. Even today, its still an issue.

Using IVs mask so that all that stuff like Biological passport and so on cannot capture true results.



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How is any of this relevant? What you are posting just proves that you need the medical records. Thanks

What are the facts of this case?
1. He took a 750ml IV
2. It was approved by USADA
3. It couldn't mask tests taken the next day.
4. He gave a partial urine sample before the IV.
5. He passed 19 drug tests.


What are your accusations for which you have no proof for?
1. He wasn't severely dehydrated (yet the ISTUE doesn't mention that he had to be).
2. He micro-dosed (No proof)
3. He masked (No proof)
4. He paid off USADA (No proof)
6. He masked again. (No proof)
7. Lance did it, so Mayweather did it (Anecdotal fallacy – using a personal experience or an isolated example instead of sound reasoning or compelling evidence.)


This is quite clear.

[original zero]

Floyd filled up and signed pre fight medical form where he said he was fit and in tip top shape for the fight - was that a conspiracy theory?

Not true. There was no question asking if the fighter was in tip top shape. Very rare for anybody to go into a fight at 100%. The questionnaire asks very specific questions and "are you in tip top shape?" is not one of them.

This is one of countless examples of you trying to invent your own facts. I've asked repeatedly which question Floyd answered dishonestly. You can't name one. NSAC says Floyd did nothing wrong. Should I believe them or should I believe you when you're inventing questions that aren't on the questionnaire?

NSAC doctor who have examined and diganosed him before tha fight says exactly the same thing Floyd said in his pre fight medical form. floy is fine and healthy for the fight. - was that a conspiracy theory?

Fighters are typically drained before the weigh in. That's no reason to disqualify them from fighting. Floyd's condition worsened hours later and the issue was addressed. Nevada allowed IV rehydration for any reason whatsoever and it was common practice among most top fighters.

Floyd & Manny voluntarily agreed that USADA would have to decide if an IV was being used for rehydration or if it was being used for other purposes. USADA says Floyd did nothing wrong, which satisfies the voluntary agreement. The controversy is in your mind.

Floyd has never been recorded to suffer dehydration @146lbs all of his welter weight career before and even after Pac fight. - is this a conspiracy theory?

You have no way of knowing that. You have no way of knowing any of the things that you say. But even if that was true, there is no reason to assume USADA lied about Floyd's condition.

you don't want to believe that NSAC doctor a certified person to deal with dehydration, yet you believed USADA DCO staff? is it safe to say this belongs to genius floyd fan logic?

DCO doesn't have to deal with dehydration. That is why retroactive TUE exists. DCO doesn't make the ruling. The medical records are turned over to USADA, statements from the medical personnel are turned over to USADA and USADA makes a ruling. They ruled that Floyd did nothing wrong. So did NSAC.

you keep insisting that USADA was voluntary and additional testing agency

but there were no other agency testing both Floyd and Pac besides them?

Not true. Floyd & Manny were still subject to NSAC testing. Voluntarily taking extra tests doesn't excuse you from taking the required tests.

it was not voluntary, Floyd demanded USADA testing, Pac has to agree or there will be no fight. is that you definition of voluntary?

Nobody forced Manny to fight Floyd. Like usual, you don't know what words mean. Floyd & Manny made a voluntary agreement. This is why your interpretaions are always so far off base. You don't understand the words that are being discussed.

What medical information are they going to turn over when there were no diagnostic examination made?

You don't know that. You have no idea what kind of determinations were made by the paramedic and why. Have no idea what Floyd's condition was. You have none of the information, but want us to believe you over the professionals that have all of the information, even though you barely understand the language, have no experience in the field and are extraordinarily biased.

it was not my timeline it was yours.

No, it was USADA's timeline. And I've addressed your hilarious math several times already. It is reasonable to believe an IV was being administered at 7:45PM, but nobody said it STARTED being administered at that time. You just choose to ignore this information even though you've been told repeatedly.

[Spoon23]

I get paid to post here.

I wasn't paid by NSB to write here. I'm just a boxing fan who cares for the truth and the betterment of boxing.

NOW going back,*

FOR TRANSPARENCY Original zero, which agency paid you? Or who Paid you?

You need to clear that up. You are put in a position of being biased. Is it NSAC? USADA? Or FLOYD? Or all of the above.

So to clear the air if you have nothing to hide who's asking you to cover this up? Who's your employer?

# it's Your 14th attempt to duck this question

The fact someone is paying you. Only shows there is a higher power trying real hard to cover this mess up. Tsk tsk tsk..

If your for the truth. Why hide your employer?

What Froid, You and your employer is missing out.

TRANSPARENCY

You are just the same as Froid. You guys are good at hiding facts.

Original Zero has blatantly ducked important questions that raises red flags.

You can't duck this one. You are on a biased position. If you have nothing to hide you should come forward and explain your employers motives as well for transparency.

[Dosumpthin]

I wasn't paid by NSB to write here. I'm just a boxing fan who cares for the truth and the betterment of boxing.

NOW going back,*

FOR TRANSPARENCY Original zero, which agency paid you? Or who Paid you?

You need to clear that up. You are put in a position of being biased. Is it NSAC? USADA? Or FLOYD? Or all of the above.

So to clear the air if you have nothing to hide who's asking you to cover this up? Who's your employer?

# it's Your 14th attempt to duck this question

The fact someone is paying you. Only shows there is a higher power trying real hard to cover this mess up. Tsk tsk tsk..

If your for the truth. Why hide your employer?

What Froid, You and your employer is missing out.

TRANSPARENCY

You are just the same as Froid. You guys are good at hiding facts.

Original Zero has blatantly ducked important questions that raises red flags.

You can't duck this one. You are on a biased position. If you have nothing to hide you should come forward and explain your employers motives as well for transparency.

And so the cycle begins all over.
He already cleared it up. Why post this again?

Just like I know you will post those imaginary nsac rules later on in this thread or elsewhere. Even though adp02 told you it was a draft.

You are a plague to this thread.

Typical pact@rd pact@rding.

[Spoon23]

And so the cycle begins all over.
He already cleared it up. Why post this again?

Lol no he didn't. He attempted to cover his tracks with lies more like it.

He has yet to be true.

Why do you even care? Are you friends?

The plot thickens.. Tsk tsk tsk..

Typical fl0mo meddling with others affairs..

Fl0tarding as usual. Smh

[Dosumpthin]

So did Lance Armstrong!!! You ask me why I bring his name up. Its because you talk like Lance Armstrong did when he was trying to prove that he was innocent.



I just read the first part of this post. You keep on talking like its not possible but not directly saying it. You should just stop saying those kind of comments then I will stop saying that .... I can you use another word that you like .... it still means the same to me.



If you understand microdosing, then you would understand and stop saying "Come on"


"One of the doctors used by US Postal, Michele Ferrari - nicknamed Doctor Death by reporters - found ways of helping to reduce the EPO glowtime by using small "microdoses" injected directly into the vein, Hamilton says.

The cyclists could also drink large amounts of water, or inject themselves with saline solution, in order to accelerate the fading of the glow.
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Floyd drank lots and used an IV and delayed the testing process!!!!






They are not catching more now than before. How many boxers have USADA caught? Not many but the point is that the percentage of those caught is still low.





The point is that he did not rehydrate back to 160s. It was just a few pounds.

FLoyd weighed 146. USADA said drink 3 cups per pound lost.







but Floyd's results were tainted due to the masking effects of delaying 5+ hours, drinking and using the IV!!!



No we do not and I mentioned why above. They said why and it does not add up!




You admitted and saw that Floyd was drinking quite a bit. That bottle was maybe 1.5 liters? Lets say he drank .9 liters that would make it about 2lbs

1 liter = 2.2lbs


Weighed in at 146 + 2 = 148.


Remember that Floyd could have eat and drink more than what we saw and admitted that he did. Sure, some of that could have been right after the IV but then why the IV?

Just to let you know you're losing this debate miserably. Your speculation of the unknown is getting slapped around with cold hard facts.

You're a smart pact@rd but you can't discern what is factual vs opinion. "Can boxing trust usada" was an editorial filled with open ended questions. This is where you've gone wrong in your crusade against Floyd.




But there is still hope for your hero Pac man. Start a petition for wada to review the tue that usada approved. This is where you should devote you time and energy.

If the tue was bs, wada can reverse usada decision.

[Spoon23]

Just like I know you will post those imaginary nsac rules later on in this thread or elsewhere. Even though adp02 told you it was a draft.

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Yes it only proves, that they wanted a clearer understanding of when to use infusion, since those loop holes was been exploited during the Mayweather Pacquiao fight.

Never again. They have learned that blunder shall not happen again. These *********s are proof of guilt in their part that it was never their intention to grant TUEs after a fight, more so 3 weeks after.

This action by nsac is a clear cleansing of their guilty souls. Repentance I believe is what they are doing.

Weep and enjoy their repentance for they have accepted their failures so should you guys see the sins of your Fraud hero.

A reminder to the, and everyone how this mistake shall never happen again.

This should be stamped in every Fl0mo forehead.


NAC 467.558 The****utic use exemptions must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)
1.
All applications for a the****utic use exemption must be submitted and approved by the Commission at least 7 days in advance of any contest if practicable or immediately upon prescribed need before the contest.


Isn't it that Nsac was adviced 3 weeks after the contest?

No where near 7 days in advance of a contest?

Froid Roid is the exemption to the rule. The golden child of Vegas Nevada.

[Dosumpthin]

Lol no he didn't. He attempted to cover his tracks with lies more like it.

He has yet to be true.

Why do you even care? Are you friends?

The plot thickens.. Tsk tsk tsk..

Typical fl0mo meddling with others affairs..

Fl0tarding as usual. Smh

I get paid by FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR.
to post here.

It is my job to observe and report prolonged pact@rd behavior in individuals before and after may 2nd.


You are making me a lot of money.

[Spoon23]

I get paid by FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR.
to post here.

It is my job to observe and report prolonged pact@rd behavior in individuals before and after may 2nd.


You are making me a lot of money.

Lol who cares

You are an insect among men.

Carry on.

[Dosumpthin]

Yes it only proves, that they wanted a clearer understanding of when to use infusion, since those loop holes was been exploited during the Mayweather Pacquiao fight.

Never again. They have learned that blunder shall not happen again. These *********s are proof of guilt in their part that it was never their intention to grant TUEs after a fight, more so 3 weeks after.

This action by nsac is a clear cleansing of their guilty souls. Repentance I belwive is what they are doing.

Weep and enjoy their repentance for hey accepted their failures so should you guys see the sins of your Fraud hero.

A reminder of how this mistake shall never happen again.

This should be stamped in every Fl0mo forehead.


NAC 467.558 The****utic use exemptions must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)
1.
All applications for a the****utic use exemption must be submitted and approved by the Commission at least 7 days in advance of any contest if practicable or immediately upon prescribed need before the contest.


Isn't it that Nsac was adviced 3 weeks after the contest?

No where near 7 days in advance of a contest?

Froid Roid is the exemption to the rule. The golden child of Vegas Nevada.

Pact@rd level 10 noted and reported.

".05 cents has been deposited to your account"

I'm about to be very rich.