Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Zaroku]

I did. They are now amending their rules.

NSAC just cannot go against the Nevada fighter.

They can accept a retroactive TUE, but they won't apply the rules retroactively???

I wonder why???

[ADP02]

Man you really making Original zero squirm.. He's bathing in his cold sweat lol The guy has nothing left to offer. Exposed like froid Mayweather lmao He's a good soldier of froid, but one must know when the battle has been lost.

It was a valiant effort in his part, but its really hard to defend a cheat. The trophy belongs to you ADP02.

That was a brillaint massacre! Bravo!

Cheers!

Dang! The proof gets better and better..

Nice find ADP02. Totally debunks the 2hour potency of saline masking properties.

Then like clockwork, since they have no comeback, they say that it serves no purpose. Well, it just does not serve a Floyd fan but that was the purpose of the evidence!

[ADP02]

They can accept a retroactive TUE, but they won't apply the rules retroactively???

I wonder why???

I like that.

They didn't accept anything. They just closed their eyes and made sure that USADA never does it again but for Floyd, he does not care because he is now retired.

[Zaroku]

I like that.

They didn't accept anything. They just closed their eyes and made sure that USADA never does it again but for Floyd, he does not care because he is now retired.

That pretty much covers it! Well put!
Free all day like OJ

Until OJ went on a robbing spree!

[travestyny]

You said 2 hours and wanted evidence that it can be more. I showed you evidence of 8 hours stable then you say it served no purpose.

Ok, I've reviewed your study from...when was it, 2005? It was 500ml of saline which caused at most, using the centrifuge method of measuring hematocrit, a change from 45.8% to 43.4%. The study itself mentions that this is a very small change, especially when you take into account that normal hematocrit level is about 45%. You should also notice the +/- error next to each value.

More importantly, you do realize that people found guilty of blood doping have hematocrit levels of over 50%, right?

First of all, I would want to see what would happen with a more significant change.

Second, and yes more importantly no matter how you try to twist it, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8 HOURS AND 24 HOURS. I'll gladly give you 8 hours. Where do you go from here? You know damn well the masking effect won't last from, let's say 8:15pm May 1st until well after 8pm May 2nd.

I gave you of 2 scenarios of how Floyd can pass the May 2nd fight where you made it sound like it was not possible yet you say that my response served no purpose!

Yea. Let's talk about your scenarios! lol
1) Floyd was concerned with the unexpected May 1st test not the expected May 2nd after the fight test. Perhaps they were not sure that they can pass the May 1st test but they could have ~30-36 hours later.

Again, no mention of the partial urine sample from before the IV. Why don't you ever bring that up? Oh, that's right, it was only a few drops because that's the only scenario that fits your agenda. Any more requirements for your agenda? Oh yea, the other 18 drug tests never caught him off guard. So let's put this all together. He delays announcing fights until he can cycle off the PED's (perhaps he forgot that technique). He was tested 16 times before the IV and never caught off guard though he was doping throughout the entire training camp. On the 17th test he was caught off guard and wanted to mask, but unfortunately he had to give a partial urine sample. He passed that test miraculously, and then he was lucky enough to pass the final 2 tests though the masking effect wore off because he timed it just right. Not only that, but he also paid off USADA...for absolutely no gain.

I'm sure even you can smell bull**** now. Let's move on to #2.

2) They have May 1st as proof that DCO was there to witness an IV. So they can now do another IV hidden and even if tests show concentrations of IV by-products, well, they can say its from May 1st IV.

hahahahaha. So um, when did he have time to take this IV? Was it in the back of the MGM Grand? Did he do it at his home in front of the DCO? Was this DCO the crooked one?

News Flash: You could say an alien came down from the sky and gave him magical powers for all I care. Your "scenarios" are just that. Scenarios. They don't amount to anything. You are clinging to this as if it's some kind of proof. You have no proof and your "scenarios" admit that. Thanks for your creativity, but fantasies don't offer proof.

Sure. Manny could have but do not confuse the matter:
- only Floyd delayed 6 hours giving his urine sample and

Oh, you mean when he gave a partial urine sample and blood. But wait....NO IV? Can this be?
"Mayweather gives his urine sample, but he’s dehydrated and needs to fill it up completely. He also has to wait 2 hours for a cool down period before his blood can be taken."


Oops. So much for that 6 hour thing. Partial urine sample, no IV, blood given as well. Hmm.

- only Floyd used an IV to mask his PEDs and

How did he pass the other 18 tests without masking?

- only Floyd used a banned method.

Last I checked, it isn't banned with a TUE. You might want to check into that.

- only Floyd could have had another IV the next day and Floyd could have used the May 1st IV as his alibi.

This is laughable. With USADA following him after the fight he has another IV. You should be ashamed of yourself for even mentioning this. It reeks of desperation.

- only Floyd got to use his supposed "medication" that is illegal and masks PEDs.

It's saline and it didn't mask tests given on May 2nd. You know it and I know it. Plus, again no mention of the partial urine sample.

- Only Floyd had to get a retroactive BS like Lance Armstrong did when he used his banned substance.

Lance had a retroactive prescription for cortisone cream. Mayweather had a retroactive TUE for saline and gave a partial urine sample before the IV as well as took 2 tests the day after the IV. Nice try, though.

Quite a different situation. Only one was caught in an IV scandal.
.

Is there a scandal? I think we might be the only people talking about this. But here's one for you:

Manny Pacquaio was the only one to stop the fight from originally happening because of a refusal to submit to drug testing. Would you rather have 19 passed tests or no test at all. Hmmmm.

[Spoon23]

This should be stamped in every Fl0mo forehead.


NAC 467.558 The****utic use exemptions must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)
1.
All applications for a the****utic use exemption must be submitted and approved by the Commission at least 7 days in advance of any contest if practicable or immediately upon prescribed need before the contest.


Isn't it that Nsac was adviced 3 weeks after the contest?

No where near 7 days in advance of a contest?

Froid Roid is the exemption to the rule. The golden child of Vegas Nevada.

[original zero]

but IV was legal in nevada and did not require a TUE.

so you're sunk.

[Spoon23]

The golden child of Vegas. Ripped at the twilight years in a boxer's career. Even ripper than when he was younger. Amazing what peds can do tsk tsk tsk..

[Dosumpthin]

Ok, I've reviewed your study from...when was it, 2005? It was 500ml of saline which caused at most, using the centrifuge method of measuring hematocrit, a change from 45.8% to 43.4%. The study itself mentions that this is a very small change, especially when you take into account that normal hematocrit level is about 45%. You should also notice the +/- error next to each value.

More importantly, you do realize that people found guilty of blood doping have hematocrit levels of over 50%, right?

First of all, I would want to see what would happen with a more significant change.

Second, and yes more importantly no matter how you try to twist it, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8 HOURS AND 24 HOURS. I'll gladly give you 8 hours. Where do you go from here? You know damn well the masking effect won't last from, let's say 8:15pm May 1st until well after 8pm May 2nd.




Yea. Let's talk about your scenarios! lol
1) Floyd was concerned with the unexpected May 1st test not the expected May 2nd after the fight test. Perhaps they were not sure that they can pass the May 1st test but they could have ~30-36 hours later.

Again, no mention of the partial urine sample from before the IV. Why don't you ever bring that up? Oh, that's right, it was only a few drops because that's the only scenario that fits your agenda. Any more requirements for your agenda? Oh yea, the other 18 drug tests never caught him off guard. So let's put this all together. He delays announcing fights until he can cycle off the PED's (perhaps he forgot that technique). He was tested 16 times before the IV and never caught off guard though he was doping throughout the entire training camp. On the 17th test he was caught off guard and wanted to mask, but unfortunately he had to give a partial urine sample. He passed that test miraculously, and then he was lucky enough to pass the final 2 tests though the masking effect wore off because he timed it just right. Not only that, but he also paid off USADA...for absolutely no gain.

I'm sure even you can smell bull**** now. Let's move on to #2.

2) They have May 1st as proof that DCO was there to witness an IV. So they can now do another IV hidden and even if tests show concentrations of IV by-products, well, they can say its from May 1st IV.

hahahahaha. So um, when did he have time to take this IV? Was it in the back of the MGM Grand? Did he do it at his home in front of the DCO? Was this DCO the crooked one?

News Flash: You could say an alien came down from the sky and gave him magical powers for all I care. Your "scenarios" are just that. Scenarios. They don't amount to anything. You are clinging to this as if it's some kind of proof. You have no proof and your "scenarios" admit that. Thanks for your creativity, but fantasies don't offer proof.


Oh, you mean when he gave a partial urine sample and blood. But wait....NO IV? Can this be?
"Mayweather gives his urine sample, but he’s dehydrated and needs to fill it up completely. He also has to wait 2 hours for a cool down period before his blood can be taken."


Oops. So much for that 6 hour thing. Partial urine sample, no IV, blood given as well. Hmm.

How did he pass the other 18 tests without masking?


Last I checked, it isn't banned with a TUE. You might want to check into that.


This is laughable. With USADA following him after the fight he has another IV. You should be ashamed of yourself for even mentioning this. It reeks of desperation.


It's saline and it didn't mask tests given on May 2nd. You know it and I know it. Plus, again no mention of the partial urine sample.


Lance had a retroactive prescription for cortisone cream. Mayweather had a retroactive TUE for saline and gave a partial urine sample before the IV as well as took 2 tests the day after the IV. Nice try, though.



Is there a scandal? I think we might be the only people talking about this. But here's one for you:

Manny Pacquaio was the only one to stop the fight from originally happening because of a refusal to submit to drug testing. Would you rather have 19 passed tests or no test at all. Hmmmm.

Wow you destroyed him with that post.

He has nothing left but speculation and conspiracies. He went from "undetectable micro dosing" to now " Floyd was using multiple ivs to mask". Even his own conspiracy theories has to contradict one another.


That's what happens when you base your opinions around rumors and lies.


Absolutely destroyed.

[Dosumpthin]

This should be stamped in every Fl0mo forehead.


NAC 467.558 The****utic use exemptions must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)
1.
All applications for a the****utic use exemption must be submitted and approved by the Commission at least 7 days in advance of any contest if practicable or immediately upon prescribed need before the contest.


Isn't it that Nsac was adviced 3 weeks after the contest?

No where near 7 days in advance of a contest?

Froid Roid is the exemption to the rule. The golden child of Vegas Nevada.

Every time you post this I laugh at how ****** you are.


No matter how many times EVERYONE tells you nsac can't issue an EXEMPTION for something that is not banned. Every time you ignore it and post more ******ity.


You make the other pact@rd s look really bad. I'm surprised adp guy doesn't call you out more often. He puts in a lot of work only to have you making him look like a joke.


No unity amongst pact@rd s. Lol.