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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostGreen!
49 - 0. That is all that will be remembered. This non existent IV investigation may be a footnote in history that PAC fanatics struggled with Floyd's victory.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostWhat will be remembered is in those 49 wins. How many of those fights were rigged and how many peds he took, and how many wins were tainted with peds?
Since, there is no way to know when he kept on using PEDS. All his fights is now a big fat Asterisk. All he will be remembered is a cheat who robbed us of exciting fights.
The Sad truth. No one to blame, but himself tsk tsk tsk..
49 * manufactured undefeated
1 is an undefeated winner...the other a selfie taker...
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Originally posted by Rath View Postif you look at the poll result mr behaviorist there are only two of you and more than four who doubts Floyd.
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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostI saw a guy without the skills needed to rough Floyd up like Castillo & Maidana. That is PACs fault! Failed to cut off the ring!
Also, PAC said his shoulder got hurt during the fight not before, but he might have been lying, as usual to get out of the lawsuits against him. His lies really complicate any further deep discussions into his loss to Floyd. Previously he lied and said it was hurt in training, but he failed to disclose it. Causing people who trusted him to bet money, many poor people bet money on that liar!
Look at PAC and his crap! What a pile of crap it is! Be a boxing fan! Be critical! He is a liar either way.
Do you think tight socks had anything to do with his loss??? Surely these micro details would have been handled in training?
The point is that, I can think of situations where I was less than 100% but decided that at game time, I was good enough to start but nowhere near 100%. Then during the game the injury comes back to the same level as when it was initially injured. At times, the injury gets worse than it originally was. I have played injured and sometimes I still looked like the best player there and sometimes the injury was just too much and I didn't ....
Remember that Manny was counting on getting a pain killer since USADA APPROVED the non-prohibited drug. Floyd with no approval until after the fight, is approved and gets whatever he wants.
Manny is not Castillo nor Maidana. Those 2 are bigger than Manny and less skilled. With their size they were able to bully Floyd. Unfortunately for Maidana, Floyd made sure that he had a guard, I mean a ref that would not allow him to do anything but at the same time, unfairly allow Floyd to elbow, hug and so on. So Floyd had the best of both worlds.
Manny fought injured and still, Floyd had his lowest punch count ever. Manny had the better moments.
If Manny had no skills could he have done this? In all 4 examples, Manny had Floyd miss or block his punch then counter and connect. All 4 times, it was planned and executed as Manny wanted. All in Round 3
.Last edited by ADP02; 11-28-2015, 02:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostMarquez is a better fighter! Down but never out! Never Out. Floyd was rocked, but technically never down. Both guys are better than Manny! How did you feel when manny was face down, teetering between life & death? I took a knee, and prayed that Manny live. It terrified me, I never wanted to see him fight again, but for Tax reasons & for his country he battles on. I want him to whip Mallinagi & retire. Before he gets retired. His best wasn't good enough. It wasn't good enough. Let's let him fade away gracefully!
If not he should fight GGG! Big PPV numbers! Death defying PAC! What is good enough for Floyd, is good enough for PAC. GGG no catch weight, do it PAC! You can do it!!!! Make Canelo look yellow!
No catch weight! Be the lil Pinoy that could! Stand toe to toe with that half Korean dude GGG!!! Go PAC! You can do it!!
No guts no glory!! Where are my Filipino brothers, the PhilAmnation chanting we want GGG! We Want GGG!"
Very good defensive fighters take less risk so the probability is less that they get KOd. The ref, Joe Cortez, could have waved off the fight after the 3rd Marquez knock down in round 1 of fight 1. Fortunately, that did not happen or else we would not have seen fights 2, 3 and 4.
When the bigger Clottey faced Manny, he went into survival mode. He was in essence playing turtle. So if you turtle up, a turtle can't fight but will not get KOed.
GGG/Canelo/Martinez/Williams ..... the difference:
- Manny tried and went up to 150 only 1 time. He realized even before the fight that it was too much and said that it would be the first time and last time at that weight.
- Floyd fought 3 times at 154. Yet, he didn't want to risk fighting Martinez and Williams. He only fought the green, inexperienced, low work rate, bad stamina, relatively flat footed Canelo. Plus, they both held titles at 154, both fought there before yet the fight was at a CW of 152? Besides the above mentioned disadvantages that Canelo had, Floyd in essence, removed Canelo's only advantage by trying to drain him.
"There is a reason why you CW. You are trying to drain and dehydrate your opponent ..... I look at Cotto (Canelo) as an undefeated fighter."
So in essence, Floyd has said that we should NOT count the Canelo fight.
- Floyd has never fought at 160 so I didn't expect him or care for him to fight at 160 BUT then came the possibility to fight Cotto and Canelo at 160 and things changed for Floyd and his fans. They were so pumped up that Floyd can get another title at another division. Too boot, a lineal title.
So then naturally, the playing field changes. Just like Floyd avoided the riskier opponents at 154, he will do the same at 160. Floyd and his fans will revert back to "Floyd is too small to fight at MW.
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Whats wrong with ya'll?? seriously whats wrong with ya'll no one cares at all yet the same posters keep putting this thread on the front page
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Originally posted by LarryXXX View PostWhats wrong with ya'll?? seriously whats wrong with ya'll no one cares at all yet the same posters keep putting this thread on the front page
same Floyd fans start threads, post about Floyd, and so on and forget what they said in this thread. Floyd is retired, stop talking about him .....
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