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    Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
    I love Newtonian laws of physics.
    Everything needs to be accounted for in the universe. Degredation of energy,
    All losses in the process of matter being converted to energy, or energy being converted to matter... Awesome.

    Everything decays. As will the fervor with which a few fans attack the TUE IV.

    Personally. I never heard of this kinda thing. This is why I don't like it. It breaks precedent, but .... I can't change things.

    But in the ring, what I saw was Floyd winning 8 to 4 in my opinion.

    Best Regards,
    Zaroku
    Physics and more ..........

    They said (Bond's fans) that Barry Bonds did what he did due to eye/hand/bat coordination that was better than anyone else not due to PEDs.

    Just like Floyd's numbers, Bonds had numbers that were looked at and cheered on.

    Still, the red flags were there and the numbers were distorted due to those red flags. Like Memo Heredia said, PEDs make a very good player a much greater one.


    "Myth #4: Steroids won’t help players hit home runs.

    Some fans argue that it takes hand-eye coordination to hit home runs, and that “steroids (PEDs) will not improve this athletic skill.” Once again wrong. An athlete needs basic skills to perform at a high level. However, drug enhancement of athletic ability clearly occurs.

    Research indicates that a baseball’s velocity coming off the bat is related to bat speed. Researchers have shown that muscle development increases bat speed, and thus “hit ball” velocity. Weight training will improve bat speed; anabolic drug use can add extra power.
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      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Physics and more ..........

      They said (Bond's fans) that Barry Bonds did what he did due to eye/hand/bat coordination that was better than anyone else not due to PEDs.

      Just like Floyd's numbers, Bonds had numbers that were looked at and cheered on.

      Still, the red flags were there and the numbers were distorted due to those red flags. Like Memo Heredia said, PEDs make a very good player a much greater one.


      "Myth #4: Steroids won’t help players hit home runs.

      Some fans argue that it takes hand-eye coordination to hit home runs, and that “steroids (PEDs) will not improve this athletic skill.” Once again wrong. An athlete needs basic skills to perform at a high level. However, drug enhancement of athletic ability clearly occurs.

      Research indicates that a baseball’s velocity coming off the bat is related to bat speed. Researchers have shown that muscle development increases bat speed, and thus “hit ball” velocity. Weight training will improve bat speed; anabolic drug use can add extra power.
      "


      Thanks for this info. It is greatly appreciated..

      I have a really close friend who used PEDs for his body building career in the 90's. 260 -285 mostly mass. Post roids, 220 but never won again. He is in awesome shape but post PEDs could never perform a 2 hour leg training session.
      He used to go to Mexico & buy all kinds of things. His source went to federal prison etc..

      But post PEDs he was normal, but he was older, so I attributed his lack of size. Etc to lack of PEDs. Because he is all natural now, with great genetics, he sells sports supplements to gyms, gnc etc. I am going to ask him about hand eye skills in relation to PEDs.

      Thanks for your input.

      Best Regards,
      Zaroku

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        Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
        Thanks for this info. It is greatly appreciated..

        I have a really close friend who used PEDs for his body building career in the 90's. 260 -285 mostly mass. Post roids, 220 but never won again. He is in awesome shape but post PEDs could never perform a 2 hour leg training session.
        He used to go to Mexico & buy all kinds of things. His source went to federal prison etc..

        But post PEDs he was normal, but he was older, so I attributed his lack of size. Etc to lack of PEDs. Because he is all natural now, with great genetics, he sells sports supplements to gyms, gnc etc. I am going to ask him about hand eye skills in relation to PEDs.

        Thanks for your input.

        Best Regards,
        Zaroku
        Same here. I knew someone who used to compete and win at various levels and yes he took PEDs. He also told me about the bad side effects. Hearing the sides was enough for me to stay away from them.

        Yes having the right genes helps a lot. I can say this from personal experience as well. Genetics plus the drive to achieve.

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          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Same here. I knew someone who used to compete and win at various levels and yes he took PEDs. He also told me about the bad side effects. Hearing the sides was enough for me to stay away from them.

          Yes having the right genes helps a lot. I can say this from personal experience as well. Genetics plus the drive to achieve.
          I will share whatever he tells me about this. He's has been a great friend for over 20 years, and I trust him.

          As a fan of boxing I will share it. Fiat Lux.... My university motto... Let there be light..

          Best Regards,
          Zaroku

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            Originally posted by Slip Stream View Post
            Sadly, I'm only fluent in English, but if I had but a fraction of bilingualism within me I'd tell you in several languages or three that Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao lost like a novice in a clinic on May 2nd. I understand it's painful, you've cried and peed in your bed, I get it dude, you're distraught but hey so was I when the Tyson bubble burst.

            I really do get it, and you know what? I didn't need any of my history dealing with behavior to figure that out....



            No links huh? Floyd's going down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            "I'd tell you in several languages or three that Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao lost like a novice in a clinic on May 2nd."


            we are discussing the iv that was given floyd in his clinic ooops home on May 1st....

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              Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
              "I'd tell you in several languages or three that Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao lost like a novice in a clinic on May 2nd."


              we are discussing the iv that was given floyd in his clinic ooops home on May 1st....
              "Discussing the iv?" Indeed, and here I thought all of you were just whining incessantly.....

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                Originally posted by Slip Stream View Post
                "Discussing the iv?" Indeed, and here I thought all of you were just whining incessantly.....
                look yourself in the mirror....

                here, a wad of tissues to wipe your tears....

                there was no boxing clinic last may 2...

                but there was an iv clinic or something similar in floyd's house last may 1...

                you might as well go in there as you dehydrated yourself from too much crying...

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                  Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                  look yourself in the mirror....

                  here, a wad of tissues to wipe your tears....

                  there was no boxing clinic last may 2...

                  but there was an iv clinic or something similar in floyd's house last may 1...

                  you might as well go in there as you dehydrated yourself from too much crying...
                  Look what you've been reduced to "there was no boxing clinic May 2." That's the extent of your rebuttal after this "scandal" has been fully, completely, and unequivocally broken into the media? Again, there's no reason for me or Floyd to cry, he won and I won when I collected my duckets from the idiots willing to bet against him...

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                    Originally posted by Slip Stream View Post
                    Look what you've been reduced to "there was no boxing clinic May 2." That's the extent of your rebuttal after this "scandal" has been fully, completely, and unequivocally broken into the media? Again, there's no reason for me or Floyd to cry, he won and I won when I collected my duckets from the idiots willing to bet against him...
                    so are you now saying the iv scandal is decided by who won?

                    and you take floyd's may 2 performance a boxing clinic?

                    ali vs foreman was a boxing clinic...rigo vs nonito was a boxing clinic...

                    pac vs dlh was a boxing clinic...

                    floyd in his early fights did give boxing clinic..but those were long ago..

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                      Originally posted by radioraheem
                      Yes, it was a clinic and the scorecards reflected the same. And most of the media/press also were in agreement that Mayweather clearly won.

                      The after effects of that clinic still has many of you mourning here.
                      ha ha ha...good try.....i will not engage you in a useless discussion about the fight itself here..500+ pages and counting...

                      as floyd's fans say, as the judges say, as compubox say, as media say..floyd won....

                      this thread is on the iv scandal....may 1.....in the home of your tbe...

                      why only 2 posters believe floyd really wanted to clean boxing of peds? have you voted yet?

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