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True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View PostJirov too, though it is highly debateable. I thought he was behind on the cards but I don't really have a problem with him winning as he beat Jirov half to death in the final round and the fight should have been stopped.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostMichael Nunns resume is nowhere near Mannny Pacquiao's. He's a good/great fighter but he is nowhere near Pacquiao in terms of accomplishments, resume, impact on the sport.
To argue which win is more impressive you simply look at where the opponents were in their career and what was their level of skill.
All the other **** you're bringing up is completely irrelevant to the analysis/discussion.
This would be a much more serious debate had Floyd gotten a victory over Manny circa '09-'10 because he was at his peak. Similarly to how Nunn was at his peak when Toney fought and beat him. It's really that simple
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I thought the Jirov and Holyfield wins were excellent. Think he was fighter of the year for that.
Toney is a great champion. Hall of Famer with all-time great talent. But...some pretty bad losses in his prime hurt his standing. The Nunn win was fantastic. I'm not sure I'd place it ahead of the Corrales victory though. Nunn really was a terric fighter in his prime but his career kinda descended after the loss to Toney. Corrales was also highly ranked when he fought Mayweather and continued to notch impressive wins over top fighters after (Freitas, Castillo, and Casamayor).
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI thought the Jirov and Holyfield wins were excellent. Think he was fighter of the year for that.
Toney is a great champion. Hall of Famer with all-time great talent. But...some pretty bad losses in his prime hurt his standing. The Nunn win was fantastic. I'm not sure I'd place it ahead of the Corrales victory though. Nunn really was a terric fighter in his prime but his career kinda descended after the loss to Toney. Corrales was also highly ranked when he fought Mayweather and continued to notch impressive wins over top fighters after (Freitas, Castillo, and Casamayor).
Holyfield was decent.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI thought the Jirov and Holyfield wins were excellent. Think he was fighter of the year for that.
Toney is a great champion. Hall of Famer with all-time great talent. But...some pretty bad losses in his prime hurt his standing. The Nunn win was fantastic. I'm not sure I'd place it ahead of the Corrales victory though. Nunn really was a terric fighter in his prime but his career kinda descended after the loss to Toney. Corrales was also highly ranked when he fought Mayweather and continued to notch impressive wins over top fighters after (Freitas, Castillo, and Casamayor).
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI thought the Jirov and Holyfield wins were excellent. Think he was fighter of the year for that.
Toney is a great champion. Hall of Famer with all-time great talent. But...some pretty bad losses in his prime hurt his standing. The Nunn win was fantastic. I'm not sure I'd place it ahead of the Corrales victory though. Nunn really was a terric fighter in his prime but his career kinda descended after the loss to Toney. Corrales was also highly ranked when he fought Mayweather and continued to notch impressive wins over top fighters after (Freitas, Castillo, and Casamayor).
And Holy was a shadow of his former self, heart problems and no speed left. Did you even see that fight?
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View PostIn a far far deeper P4P era too. The fact that out of prime Pac was number 2 and aging cherry picking Floyd are considered 1+2 says a lot about this era. As you said you had prime JCC, prime Pernell and prime Michael Nunn 1,2 +3, and James Toney in his prime around 6 or 7 i'd imagine and prime Mike at about number 4 or 5 probably. Can you post the entire list please?
2] Sweet Pea
3] Nunn
4] Esparragoza
5] Meldrick
6] Real Deal
7] Tyson
8] Raul Perez
9] Myung-Woo Yuh
10] Khaosai Galaxy
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