Is it me or do 90% of the PBC fights mean nothing?

[mathed]

All I know is Hymen gets 100% of the managerial fees from both guys.

[bigfo0t]

A lot of people here called it before PBC even started. Al Haymon has always been more interested in lining his own pockets instead of actually helping the sport. Look at his track record. He is a shady "businessman" with no Boxing backround who has contributed greatly in turning Boxing even more and more into the business side than a legitimate competitive sport.

Did anyone really believe he would change his ways with PBC? Just about every single PBC fight so far has had a predictable outcome. Many of us REALLY do hope it will improve, succeed and help grow the sport more, but so far it's mostly been just the same old Hymen bullshit with a handful of decent matchups sprinkled in between giant steaming piles of elephant turd. This most likely is hurting the sport more than helping at this point.

[daggum]

quillin vs tony jeter
trout vs joey hernandez
bute vs some guy
huck vs glowacki
wilder vs some guy
tarver vs cunningham
stevenson vs karpency
garcia vs malignaggi
jacobs vs mora
santa cruz vs mares

you are right. 1 out of 10. that one is only being made because haymon ruined both guys careers with a series of mismatches

[AllBoxingAD]

I love the logic here.

Getting free fights on tv will be boxing's final nail in the coffin?

The future of boxing depends on guys like Wilder, Khan, and Santa Cruz?

Some of you boxing fans are so ****ing dumb. Unbelievably dumb.

[AddiX]

I love the logic here.

Getting free fights on tv will be boxing's final nail in the coffin?

The future of boxing depends on guys like Wilder, Khan, and Santa Cruz?

Some of you boxing fans are so ****ing dumb. Unbelievably dumb.

Haymon got a 420 million $ loan, if pbc fails,no one is ever going to try to build this sport up in your lifetime again, that's for sure.

[Larry the boss]

He doesn't have the roster to make game changing fights just yet.

It will take more than one fight to get there. Porter beating Broner for example will lead to say Garcia which can lead to Khan/Thurman/Brook which would create a new #1 welterweight.

Just takes time.

Exactly^^^^^^^^^^^

[Thornton Melon]

Exactly^^^^^^^^^^^

So in the meantime you make Garcia-Paulie?

[Porter's Dad]

Someone should make a thread titled THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY and list all of the PBC fights so far and we can categorize them into those three sections. Because it's too simplistic to just say PBC SUCKS or PBC IS GREAT, it's somewhere in between it's been a mixture of good, bad and ugly.

Off the top of my head:

THE GOOD
Garcia vs Peterson
Broner vs Porter
Quillin vs Lee
Harrison vs Nelson
Dirrell vs DeGale
Thurman vs Guerrero
Santa Cruz vs Mares

THE BAD
Garcia vs Paulie Malignaggi
Lara vs Rodriguez
Khan vs Algieri (fight turned out pretty good tho)
Bute vs Andrea Di Luisa
Frampton vs Gonzalez
Broner vs Molina

THE UGLY
Garcia vs Salka
Thurman vs Collazo
Stevenson vs Bika
Stevenson vs Tommy Karpency
Mora vs Abraham Han


There's more but you get the idea

This is a GREAT post (and idea). The PBC experiment seems a tremendous let-down right now but perception (and all the noise) can cloud your judgement.

He has made some good match-ups but there hasn't been a great fight yet. Jacobs-Mora could have been it but for the injury. Broner-Porter SHOULD have been it but morons in Broner's team convinced him to clinch for his life, which is totally opposite to what he is as a fighter.

Haymon can't match all his marquee fighters too tough because if they lose, he's screwed. But he needs to stop giving free rides to fighters like Quillin, Adonis, and Danny Garcia too. It's softening them up and giving them bad press too.

And it really is time to stop wheeling out the Malignaggis and Collazos. Those fights are just depressing.

[Barcham]

I love the logic here.

Getting free fights on tv will be boxing's final nail in the coffin?

The future of boxing depends on guys like Wilder, Khan, and Santa Cruz?

Some of you boxing fans are so ****ing dumb. Unbelievably dumb.

Awhile ago, I was watching television and some crappy made for Sci-Fi channel movie that was like a copy of Independence Day came on and it was a steaming pile of manure. They also have a Transformers style piece of crap as well and rip offs of other big name franchises. They even rip off the names as close as possible as well. I will not waste my time watching this kind of trash but maybe I should waste two hours or more of my life because it was made for TV and I didn't have to pay 15 bucks to see it in a theater? Maybe everyone should boycott the huge blockbuster movies and sit at home and watch these made for TV versions of pure horse manure instead?

Yeah... I didn't think so. Free does not mean that something is worth spending your time watching. Don't forget, time is the most valuable thing you possess. You can never earn more of it and once it is spent, it's gone forever. My time is too valuable to spend watching PBC CRAP.

[jreckoning]

Haymon got a 420 million $ loan, if pbc fails,no one is ever going to try to build this sport up in your lifetime again, that's for sure.

That's an awful lot of money.

I hope it succeeds though I can't understand the business model.

They need a ton of casual fans tuning it to sustain this.