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    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Moving up divisions as you naturally get bigger isn't impressive. If Floyd could move down in weight and beat Lucas, or Garcia now that would be impressive.

    GGG is very brave to think he can move down to beat Floyd at 154. That takes more balls than moving up to fight Ward. Well its a toss up but once GGG beats Floyd then he can beat Ward. One step at a time.
    Probably Floyd would be easier opponent actually. So one step at a time. Floyds retiring soon so GGG cant move up yet. He would literally have to sprint and rush to to get back down for Floyd.
    The amount of bull**** in this post is too damn high

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      Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
      The amount of bull**** in this post is too damn high
      I know right! That guy stated that GGG would be more brave to move down and face Floyd rather than move up and face Ward. Then turns around and says Floyd would be the easier fight. How does that makes any sense? These guys are pathological in their hatred for certain fighters and their fandom for others.

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        Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
        I know right! That guy stated that GGG would be more brave to move down and face Floyd rather than move up and face Ward. Then turns around and says Floyd would be the easier fight. How does that makes any sense? These guys are pathological in their hatred for certain fighters and their fandom for others.
        hugh grant is a clown like PacBoy and Spoon and ADP. Look at my sig, a few years ago he was everywhere saying that he would rate Floyd with SRL, Ali, and SRR if Floyd was to beat Hatton, DLH, Mosley and Cotto, now this guy is still hating. Like you said I think many of these guys have psychological hate issues.

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          Originally posted by boxinghead530 View Post
          Dude don't try and rewrite history. The pac thing may have some truth, but those other claims you say are just not correct. The Cotto fight and Margarito fight didn't happen because Floyd left TR. He was offered 8 million to fight Margarito by Arum because at the time he was still with TR but instead he bought out his contract and then took 8 million and 1 dollars from Goosen promotions to fight Baldomir instead. And he tried to fight Cotto at a time when he was still green and not in his prime just yet and Cotto's people said not yet he's not ready and he was still with TR. And he beat a very young not in his prime Alvarez. But don't try and rewrite history.
          Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

          Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

          "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

          Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

          Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

          The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

          Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

          "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

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            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Moving up divisions as you naturally get bigger isn't impressive. If Floyd could move down in weight and beat Lucas, or Garcia now that would be impressive.

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              I believe Golovkin would starch Mayweather but there's a lot of dishonesty in whatever conversation his name finds itself in.

              Golovkin does not have a resume that would survive Mayweather beating him and he does not have the miles left in the tank to build the type of resume that is worthwhile. As Arum put it, he has fought stumblebum after stumbledum; getting 12-0ed by a welterweight would make that point clear in the minds of critics.

              He is not a hall of a famer and he never will be. If Mayweather beat him, he would go down as an overhyped paper champ. The only thing that would change that is him going on to dominate the 168 division and collecting a win over Kolovakev, which is not going to happen.

              From a competitive point of view the fight is ******. The fact that Mayweather would lack the physical size to put up a physical resistance and the physical endurance to deal with typical punches points towards the fight being a circus show. The size difference would be close 30lb on fight night.

              And, again, there is a lot of dishonesty. I have read people complain about Mayweather boxing and moving for years., enough so that I have concluded that people want to see Mayweather in a fight. If Mayweather was to beat Golovkin, he would have to do it in a way people hate, boxing and moving. What this shows is that people want to watch the fight because they feel he will get knocked out.

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                Originally posted by FeFist View Post
                I believe Golovkin would starch Mayweather but there's a lot of dishonesty in whatever conversation his name finds itself in.

                Golovkin does not have a resume that would survive Mayweather beating him and he does not have the miles left in the tank to build the type of resume that is worthwhile. As Arum put it, he has fought stumblebum after stumbledum; getting 12-0ed by a welterweight would make that point clear in the minds of critics.

                He is not a hall of a famer and he never will be. If Mayweather beat him, he would go down as an overhyped paper champ. The only thing that would change that is him going on to dominate the 168 division and collecting a win over Kolovakev, which is not going to happen.

                From a competitive point of view the fight is ******. The fact that Mayweather would lack the physical size to put up a physical resistance and the physical endurance to deal with typical punches points towards the fight being a circus show. The size difference would be close 30lb on fight night.

                And, again, there is a lot of dishonesty. I have read people complain about Mayweather boxing and moving for years., enough so that I have concluded that people want to see Mayweather in a fight. If Mayweather was to beat Golovkin, he would have to do it in a way people hate, boxing and moving. What this shows is that people want to watch the fight because they feel he will get knocked out.
                The thing is Mayweather has been in several rough fights, especially in his youth. The people who want to see Mayweather vs Golovkin know it would be a boring fight because GGG does NOTHING Floyd hasn't already seen. These people are secretly hoping that GGG's power may be too much for Floyd and are secretly praying that he can knock Floyd out. The excitement isn't from seeing Floyd fight another flat footed opponent. The excitement for these people is the possibility of seeing Floyd lose.

                Honestly, at 160 I think GGG's power would be too much for Floyd, especially at the age of 38. However, if GGG were to come down in weight to 154 or even lower to a catchweight of 152 I would actually give Floyd a chance at beating him. At 33 years old dropping a weight class would take something out of Golovkin.

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                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Moving up divisions as you naturally get bigger isn't impressive. If Floyd could move down in weight and beat Lucas, or Garcia now that would be impressive.
                  Hands down one of the dumbest comments I've seen here.

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                    So he has to fight a guy who has not defeated nor faced 1 single current champion to be top 10 ATG?

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                      Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                      mayweather would never fight someone like GGG. GGG is in his prime, hits hard and has very strong pressure fighting.

                      floyd has NEVER beaten a hof'er in their prime. NOT ONE. pac, cotto, dlh, mosley, etc. were all way past their prime. and marquez was very bloated, poorly conditioned and wasn't using heredia's steroids yet.
                      And GGG has not faced a current champion PERIOD..

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