Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: We'd Fight Ward at 164, 50-50 Split

[daggum]

That sounds perfectly fair.

Well, not perfectly fair..... otherwise you would have said 168, and 50/50.

But, that is close enough in my book.

Golovkin likely sells more tickets, not enough to be considered " A-side "..... but enough to be considered.

They are both the B-side.

what do you mean likely? its a fact that he does. ward doens't even sell as many tickets as ggg when ward fights in his hometown. ward and ggg both fought in LA and ggg gets over twice as many fans. he also brings in more tv viewers. how is he not considered the a-side? there's no threshold for being the a-side. the question is between 2 fighters who brings in more? the answer for ward-ggg is clearly ggg. the answer for ggg-froch would be froch and thats why ggg accepted to fight froch at 168 and in the uk. the difference is ward refuses to accept being the b-side so therefore the fight won't happen and yet you blame ggg simply because you don't understand the situation.

[jas]

how many people watched ward vs smith on BET

Theres your answer on why ward is indeed the B side

[daggum]

I have an issue with that.....

Mayweather, a proven PPV star and legend, is the A-side.

Pacquiao, a proven PPV star and legend, is the A-side.

Cotto, a proven PPV star and legend, is the A-side.

Golovkin is not the A-side compared to Ward, or compared to anyone.

They are both the B-side.

So, I have what you want, you have what I want..... 50/50, and DONE !

I say NO FCUKING AROUND, quibbling over pennies, because neither of those guys are established stars, certainly not established enough to argue about.

Removing excuses, is better than adding excuses.

you have an issue with math?

unfortunately ggg's numbers dispute that claim. ward fought on BET in a time buy and had to give away thousands of tickets and still didn't come close to gggs numbers. how are they both the b-side? this same exact situation happened in ward-dawson. ward and dawson weren't superstars but one guy was clearly bringing more to the table. that was ward so dawson had to fight ward on his terms. now that the tables are turned ward is unwilling to fight on someone elses terms. this kind of attitude will obviously never build him a fan base but he will take his 2 million dollar guarantee paycheck and fight paul smiths while people like you pretend he's being hard done.

[daggum]

how many people watched ward vs smith on BET

Theres your answer on why ward is indeed the B side

yeah but ward brought in 9000 church goers with free tickets. that proves he's on ggg's level right? lets just call this one even guys! ward shouldn't have to do what the more popular guy wants. he's andre fricken ward!

[aboutfkntime]

they did a follow up interview and ward reiterated that he would fight floyd at 160 but it wouldn't happen because of the weight disparity, not because he was not willing.

ok so no weight disparity would exist like the floyd-ward fight. why can't ward go down to 164 if he was willing to go to 160?

how does ggg have froch/chavez jr? they already turned down the fight. he has a mandated super fight if he stays at 160. maybe those guys will duck but its a lot more likely that he gets that fight.

I dont believe that Ward ever considered dropping to 160.

I dont think that would even be possible.

I dont think he can make 164.

When the weight for the Smith fight was announced at 172, folks surmised that Ward was moving to 175, most likely for Kovalev.

That is obviously not the case, I cant figure out how some folks function at times.

Ward is a big SMW, he is 31yo, and he was inactive for 18 months..... so obviously he had a bit of weight to lose to make 168.

Ward simply decided to lose that weight over 3 fights, rather than lose it during one camp..... the reason why is..... 1) it is easier 2) it is less risky 3) it will preserve his career.

Wards next fight will be at 170, and the next will be at 168.

Thats all thats happening here, just a well-managed reintroduction to 168.

Proven by the fact that Smith was dragged up, not down..... despite him fcuking the weight up.

[daggum]

derpty derpty ward

[aboutfkntime]

you have an issue with math?

Who cares.

There is fcuk-all difference, certainly not enough to quibble about..... and certainly not enough difference to be a sticking point in negotiations.

Golovkin is not some PPV star man, he just isnt.

They are both the B-side.

Except that Golovkin is desperate for validation, and Ward is not.

Golovkin should be walking over broken glass to get someone like Ward on his resume, not quibbling over pennies.

[daggum]

I dont believe that Ward ever considered dropping to 160.

I dont think that would even be possible.

I dont think he can make 164.

When the weight for the Smith fight was announced at 172, folks surmised that Ward was moving to 175, most likely for Kovalev.

That is obviously not the case, I cant figure out how some folks function at times.

Ward is a big SMW, he is 31yo, and he was inactive for 18 months..... so obviously he had a bit of weight to lose to make 168.

Ward simply decided to lose that weight over 3 fights, rather than lose it during one camp..... the reason why is..... 1) it is easier 2) it is less risky 3) it will preserve his career.

Wards next fight will be at 170, and the next will be at 168.

Thats all thats happening here, just a well-managed reintroduction to 168.

Proven by the fact that Smith was dragged up, not down..... despite him fcuking the weight up.

ok well i was just going by what ward said. should i believe ward himself or you? i'm torn.

[Mr. Philadel]

how many people watched ward vs smith on BET

Theres your answer on why ward is indeed the B side

GGG wins the popularity contest....cool!!...but he doesn't win the contest that REALLY matters and even his most loyal fans know that....Ward just might be the "B" side but he's also by far the more accomplished and proven fighter of the two....he takes GGG's lunch money and soul if they ever fight....mark my words!!

[daggum]

can we just touch on andre "fight killer" again. right now he has a 2 million per fight guarantee. its literally the same deal he had with goosen except the difference is goosen didn't have enough money to finance ward shows unless it was on hbo. hbo didn't want the crap opponents ward wanted so he dind't fight for years. now with roc nation they are willing to do time buys and show ward even if they lose millions per show. ward has got it made. he doesn't have to take any risks and judging by his past actions of turning down bute, stevenson, froch, and now ggg he doens't want to take any risks. when talk of a ward-kovalev fight started brewing....ward said he was moving down to 168. who will be the next bum he fights while he pretends that no one will fight him? at least ggg is the middleweight mandatory to cotto/canelo and has tried to fight lee/quillin/froch/chavez jr/lemieux. has ward even tried to fight kovalev/stevenson/degale/groves/dirrels etc...no yet his fans ignore the actions ward has taken over the last 5 years and keep crying about ggg who even offered b-side ward the fight but it wasn't good enough of course.