Comments Thread For: Top Rank Sues Al Haymon For Over $100 Million

[MC Hammer]

Does it say "Purse 4/18/15"?

The check is written to the promotional company, the promotional company then writes the check to the fighter. I don't know how this is considered evidence of Chavez being promoted by Haymon. That one step, means that Chavez was promoting himself, and Haymon Sports paid them a fee for their fighter.

[arraamis]

This thread along with its posts are hilarious .... I was going to comment on quite a few completely idiotic posts\responses, but I'm going to forgo the back and forth with mules who are without a doubt, unobjective.

Observations:
- Many are claiming and accusing Haymon of using illegal tactics, illegal procedures, violating the Ali Act. etc... While dismissing all of the illegal crap that Arum has done throughout his career in boxing. (Laughable in and of itself) Furthermore, no one here can state with any certainty, why Arum chose to file this suit or what objectives are to be accomplished, outside of a cash reward. Yet, many are trying their best to argue Arum's point\complaint without having even the most miniscule amount of actual data.


Additionally, it would seem that whenever Haymon is mentioned, its automatically assumed by those harboring some hidden agenda, that he is in the wrong. While at the same time and under similar circumstances in the past, Arum, who is quite possible the most corrupt personality in boxing, gets a pass and receives the benefit of doubt. How can anyone in their right mind make the statement that they're giving Arum the benefit of doubt in any instance, given his history?

Silliness in black and white ............

[OnePunch]

That's some serious accusations they're gonna have to prove. Hell you could do the reverse and say that TR and GB only work with certain managers and in effect run them, but proving it would be difficult.

The fighters are free agents in Haymon's system and can work for any promoter they choose. These dinosaurs are mad that a new business model has made them obsolete.

The Ali Act violations are quite simple to prove. The act prohibits a "manager" from having a financial interest in the promotion of a fighter. Haymon comtrolling all advertising and ticket revenue, but paying Dibella, Warriors, etc a flat fee to act as the name promoter clearly establishes that Haymon is the defacto promoter.

There is no doubt whatsever that Haymon is violating the Act. Anyone with even a basic understanding of the Act knows that. The only issue is whether or not the Feds will actually do anything about it, because in the complete history of the Act, Im not aware of a single prosecution by the Justice Dept......

[arraamis]

The Ali Act violations are quite simple to prove. The act prohibits a "manager" from having a financial interest in the promotion of a fighter. Haymon comtrolling all advertising and ticket revenue, but paying Dibella, Warriors, etc a flat fee to act as the name promoter clearly establishes that Haymon is the defacto promoter.

There is no doubt whatsever that Haymon is violating the Act. Anyone with even a basic understanding of the Act knows that. The only issue is whether or not the Feds will actually do anything about it, because in the complete history of the Act, Im not aware of a single prosecution by the Justice Dept......

I believe that's because there are so many loopholes within the law, that any alleged violation of the Ali Act becomes difficult to prove in court.

"Its not what you think, but what you can actually prove in a court of law"

That saying rings true here .......

[MC Hammer]

The Ali Act violations are quite simple to prove. The act prohibits a "manager" from having a financial interest in the promotion of a fighter. Haymon comtrolling all advertising and ticket revenue, but paying Dibella, Warriors, etc a flat fee to act as the name promoter clearly establishes that Haymon is the defacto promoter.

There is no doubt whatsever that Haymon is violating the Act. Anyone with even a basic understanding of the Act knows that. The only issue is whether or not the Feds will actually do anything about it, because in the complete history of the Act, Im not aware of a single prosecution by the Justice Dept......

If Ali act violations were easy to prove we'd know of some cases where it has been proven. Like you said, So far no one that I know of has gotten out of a promotional contract based upon it. Remember that's what its for. For fighters to sue promoters, not for promoters to sue advisers. Also, how do you know that Haymon gets all the revenue? Mayweather promotions got theirs in the May/Pac fight.

You may want it to be painfully clear that Haymon is violating the act, but so far it doesn't seem like a clear violation, but hey thats what cases are for. I don't see Arum or GB winning tho

[Weebler I]

Haymon detractors in 2014 = "He doesn't pin his fighters against each other"

Haymon detractors in 2015 = "He's only having his guys fight each other"

Go figure. Now he pays them too much? Although didn't Timmy get 1.5 to fight the young, hungry, undefeated, giant killer that is Jesse Vargas?

Who supported that fight though? People criticised it because it was garbage match-up and then protested after it to ensure we wouldn't be getting a rematch.

Posters need to stop assuming because people dislike what Haymon's doing that they automatically like what Arum's doing. His mediocre in-house b/s sucks too, and HBO have pretty much told him that and to take his crap to TruTv.

[Eastcoast]

Looks like TR has one more lawsuit to file. Bye bye Vanes.

I love group reckonings.

— Gabriel Montoya™ (@Gabriel_Montoya)

[boxingsupreme87]

It's really simple honestly.

Arum and Golden Boy are feeling threatened and emasculated by Haymon. It's like those guys who are constantly on alert about their GF cheating on them with superior men. That's how Oscar and Arum feel about the more successful Haymon.

[sicko]

Looks like TR has one more lawsuit to file. Bye bye Vanes.

I love group reckonings.

— Gabriel Montoya™ (@Gabriel_Montoya)

This is exactly what is going to happen, with these Lawsuits you're opening up the Flood Gates and a lot of dirty laundry on all sides will be EXPOSED

[LA_2_Vegas]

Looks like TR has one more lawsuit to file. Bye bye Vanes.

I love group reckonings.

— Gabriel Montoya™ (@Gabriel_Montoya)